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difference between BIBM and BootIt UEFI

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:03 am
by jbraner
Hi,

I've been using BIBM to manage my boot partitions for years.
I don't understand what the difference is between BIBM and BootIt UEFI.

Is there any reason to move to BootIt UEFI? I don't use any partition or backup options.

Thanks

Re: difference between BIBM and BootIt UEFI

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:21 am
by Brian K
John,

You don't need it. BIU is for UEFI systems with the OS on a GPT disk.

https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-uefi.htm

Re: difference between BIBM and BootIt UEFI

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:53 am
by jbraner
Thanks Brian - I didn't think so either, but just checking ;)

I take it the UEFI stuff is all about partition management etc - and the Boot partition stuff is pretty much the same?

Re: difference between BIBM and BootIt UEFI

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:58 am
by Brian K

Re: difference between BIBM and BootIt UEFI

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:15 am
by jbraner
Hi Brian,
sorry - I meant the *BootIt UEFI* stuff ;)

I know GPT and UEFI is all about partitioning disks, MBTs etc - and BIBM works with both - that's why I don't get what makes *BootIt UEFI* different.
Is it just that it doesn't work anymore with "legacy" GPT partitions?

Re: difference between BIBM and BootIt UEFI

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:53 pm
by Bob Coleman
Nothing needs to be changed on an existing system that is working. BIBM won't work on a UEFI system.

Re: difference between BIBM and BootIt UEFI

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:37 pm
by Bob Coleman
jbraner wrote:

> Is it just that it doesn't work anymore with "legacy" GPT
> partitions?

Why do you say "legacy GPT". "Legacy" usually refers to something older which has been at least partly superseded by something newer. If I were going to use "legacy" in this context, I'd use it with MBR, not GPT.

Not meaning to nitpick, but I'm wondering if this actually indicates a misunderstanding.

Re: difference between BIBM and BootIt UEFI

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:33 am
by jbraner
Bob Coleman wrote:
> jbraner wrote:
>
> > Is it just that it doesn't work anymore with "legacy" GPT
> > partitions?
>
> Why do you say "legacy GPT". "Legacy" usually refers to
> something older which has been at least partly superseded by something newer. If I
> were going to use "legacy" in this context, I'd use it with MBR, not GPT.
>
> Not meaning to nitpick, but I'm wondering if this actually indicates a
> misunderstanding.

Hi Bob,
No - it indicates sarcasm ;)

I still don't get why there is a need for a separate UEFI product - but it's not a big deal.

Re: difference between BIBM and BootIt UEFI

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:42 am
by Brian K
John,

Bob intended no sarcasm. He was trying to help you understand UEFI/GPT.

> still don't get why there is a need for a separate UEFI product

There is no separate UEFI product. BIU is for UEFI. BIBM is for Legacy/MBR. Totally different products.

Re: difference between BIBM and BootIt UEFI

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:48 pm
by jbraner
This is getting crazy.

I meant *My* sarcasm.I was being sarcastic when I called GPT "legacy".

What do you mean they're not separate products when you just called them separate products?


EDIT - I think there is probably some misunderstanding by me too - because looking back, I *should* have said "legacy" MBR.
Oh well, now that we're all totally confused - I'll just stick with BIBM.

I know that all the replies have meant to be helpful and I was only trying to be funny myself - so hopefully there are no hard feelings, and I'll just remain a little confused ;)