Default Options Defaulting the wrong way?

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tas3086
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Default Options Defaulting the wrong way?

Post by tas3086 »

Backup and Restore operations seem to be using default operations that are not documented. What am I doing or assuming wrong?

Backup: /VB option being used, yet not requested.
Per your log file, backups seem to be made with the /VB option set, but byte-for-byte validation was not requested. (see below)
It should be noted that in most cases, PostValidate=0x1 means a standard validate. Only in the case of a COPY operation will PostValidate=0x1 check that each byte was copied.

Restore:
Restore: /csig and /nvn options are being used, yet not requested. Log seems to indicate otherwise. (see Below)
Where did the /CSIG and /NVN:"" come from? They are not the defaults, and I did not set them anywhere?
The manual states for : /csig : Default if omitted: Image for DOS will not change the restored disk signature, drive GUIDs, or partition GUIDs.

Here are my operating parameters:
--------------------------------
INI file:
[BACKUP_DEFAULTS]
Compression=12
PostValidate=0x1
MaxFileSize=4294966784

[HD1]
Align2048=1
--------------------------------

BACKUP:

Environment: ;u;hash;comp:13;max:4GiB;logl:4;logmax:1000000;logfile:\IFD.LOG;sch:d3@0x2:\;v;wco
Run Command : IMAGE.EXE /ue /b /base:d3@0x2:"\2014-03-01-1915-E_DRIVE-.TBI" /f:d3@0x2:"\$~YYYY$-$~MM$-$~DD$-$~HHMM$-E_DRIVE-(I)-"
log file:
[ 3/08/2014 3:00:33 am] C:\.\IMAGE.EXE /ue /b /base:d3@0x2:\2014-03-01-1915-E_DRIVE-.TBI /f:d3@0x2:\$~YYYY$-$~MM$-$~DD$-$~HHMM$-E_DRIVE-(I)-
[ 3/08/2014 3:00:36 am] Image for DOS 2.88
[ 3/08/2014 3:00:36 am] Starting ...
IMAGE.EXE /b /u /sch:d3@0x2:"\" /base:d3@0x2:"\2014-03-01-1915-E_DRIVE-" /f:d3@0x2:"\$~YYYY$-$~MM$-$~DD$-$~HHMM$-E_DRIVE-(I)-" /max:4GiB /v /vb /comp:13 /hash
[ 3/08/2014 3:00:39 am] Backup: Drive 0 (PATA) E_DRIVE Volume (3B7) 25604 MiB FAT-32
[ 3/08/2014 3:00:39 am] To: d3@0x2:\2014-03-08-0300-E_DRIVE-(I)-.TBI
[ 3/08/2014 3:01:05 am] INFO: Total Sectors:52436097 Total Allocated:6810720
[ 3/08/2014 3:01:05 am] INFO: 73 Sector(s) backed up
[ 3/08/2014 3:01:05 am] Validating: E_DRIVE Volume (3B7) 25604 MiB FAT-32
[ 3/08/2014 3:01:05 am] From: d3@0x2:\2014-03-08-0300-E_DRIVE-(I)-.TBI
[ 3/08/2014 3:01:05 am] Operation Completed with Error Code 0
[ 3/08/2014 3:01:05 am] Stop

--------------------------------

RESTORE:
Environment: ;u;hash;comp:13;max:4GiB;logl:4;logmax:1000000;logfile:\IFD.LOG;sch:d3@0x2:\;v;wco
Run Command : IMAGE
log file:
[ 3/07/2014 11:52:08 pm] Image for DOS 2.88
[ 3/07/2014 11:52:08 pm] Starting ...
IMAGE.EXE /r /d:d3@0x1 /f:d4@0x2:"\2014-03-01-1738-Win7(SSD32)-" /csig /v /wco /nvn:""
[ 3/07/2014 11:52:08 pm] Validating: Win7(SSD32) Partition (01) 60000 MiB Hidden HPFS/NTFS
[ 3/07/2014 11:52:08 pm] To: Drive 3 (PATA) Win7(SSD32) Partition (01) 60000 MiB Hidden HPFS/
[ 3/07/2014 11:52:08 pm] From: d4@0x2:\2014-03-01-1738-Win7(SSD32)-.TBI
[ 3/08/2014 12:00:16 am] Restoring: Win7(SSD32) Partition (01) 60000 MiB Hidden HPFS/NTFS
[ 3/08/2014 12:00:16 am] To: Drive 3 (PATA) Win7(SSD32) Partition (01) 60000 MiB Hidden HPFS/
[ 3/08/2014 12:00:16 am] From: d4@0x2:\2014-03-01-1738-Win7(SSD32)-.6
[ 3/08/2014 12:14:20 am] Operation Completed with Error Code 0
[ 3/08/2014 12:14:22 am] Stop
TeraByte Support
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Re: Default Options Defaulting the wrong way?

Post by TeraByte Support »

for /csig - that is the restore option which has a checkbox, did you check
it by mistake?
/nvn:"" won't do anything, but it should be something other than empty, you
did this interactively using the CUI or GUI version?

"tas3086" wrote in message news:7714@public.image...

Backup and Restore operations seem to be using default operations that are
not documented. What am I doing or assuming wrong?

Backup: /VB option being used, yet not requested.
Per your log file, backups seem to be made with the /VB option set, but
byte-for-byte validation was not requested. (see below)
It should be noted that in most cases, PostValidate=0x1 means a standard
validate. Only in the case of a COPY operation will PostValidate=0x1 check
that each byte was copied.

Restore:
Restore: /csig and /nvn options are being used, yet not requested. Log seems
to indicate otherwise. (see Below)
Where did the /CSIG and /NVN:"" come from? They are not the defaults, and I
did not set them anywhere?
The manual states for : /csig : Default if omitted: Image for DOS will not
change the restored disk signature, drive GUIDs, or partition GUIDs.

Here are my operating parameters:
--------------------------------
INI file:
[BACKUP_DEFAULTS]
Compression=12
PostValidate=0x1
MaxFileSize=4294966784

[HD1]
Align2048=1
--------------------------------

BACKUP:

Environment:
;u;hash;comp:13;max:4GiB;logl:4;logmax:1000000;logfile:\IFD.LOG;sch:d3@0x2:\;v;wco
Run Command : IMAGE.EXE /ue /b /base:d3@0x2:"\2014-03-01-1915-E_DRIVE-.TBI"
/f:d3@0x2:"\$~YYYY$-$~MM$-$~DD$-$~HHMM$-E_DRIVE-(I)-"
log file:
[ 3/08/2014 3:00:33 am] C:\.\IMAGE.EXE /ue /b
/base:d3@0x2:\2014-03-01-1915-E_DRIVE-.TBI
/f:d3@0x2:\$~YYYY$-$~MM$-$~DD$-$~HHMM$-E_DRIVE-(I)-
[ 3/08/2014 3:00:36 am] Image for DOS 2.88
[ 3/08/2014 3:00:36 am] Starting ...
IMAGE.EXE /b /u /sch:d3@0x2:"\" /base:d3@0x2:"\2014-03-01-1915-E_DRIVE-"
/f:d3@0x2:"\$~YYYY$-$~MM$-$~DD$-$~HHMM$-E_DRIVE-(I)-" /max:4GiB /v /vb
/comp:13 /hash
[ 3/08/2014 3:00:39 am] Backup: Drive 0 (PATA) E_DRIVE Volume (3B7) 25604
MiB FAT-32
[ 3/08/2014 3:00:39 am] To: d3@0x2:\2014-03-08-0300-E_DRIVE-(I)-.TBI
[ 3/08/2014 3:01:05 am] INFO: Total Sectors:52436097 Total
Allocated:6810720
[ 3/08/2014 3:01:05 am] INFO: 73 Sector(s) backed up
[ 3/08/2014 3:01:05 am] Validating: E_DRIVE Volume (3B7) 25604 MiB FAT-32
[ 3/08/2014 3:01:05 am] From: d3@0x2:\2014-03-08-0300-E_DRIVE-(I)-.TBI
[ 3/08/2014 3:01:05 am] Operation Completed with Error Code 0
[ 3/08/2014 3:01:05 am] Stop

--------------------------------

RESTORE:
Environment:
;u;hash;comp:13;max:4GiB;logl:4;logmax:1000000;logfile:\IFD.LOG;sch:d3@0x2:\;v;wco
Run Command : IMAGE
log file:
[ 3/07/2014 11:52:08 pm] Image for DOS 2.88
[ 3/07/2014 11:52:08 pm] Starting ...
IMAGE.EXE /r /d:d3@0x1 /f:d4@0x2:"\2014-03-01-1738-Win7(SSD32)-" /csig /v
/wco /nvn:""
[ 3/07/2014 11:52:08 pm] Validating: Win7(SSD32) Partition (01) 60000 MiB
Hidden HPFS/NTFS
[ 3/07/2014 11:52:08 pm] To: Drive 3 (PATA) Win7(SSD32) Partition (01) 60000
MiB Hidden HPFS/
[ 3/07/2014 11:52:08 pm] From: d4@0x2:\2014-03-01-1738-Win7(SSD32)-.TBI
[ 3/08/2014 12:00:16 am] Restoring: Win7(SSD32) Partition (01) 60000 MiB
Hidden HPFS/NTFS
[ 3/08/2014 12:00:16 am] To: Drive 3 (PATA) Win7(SSD32) Partition (01) 60000
MiB Hidden HPFS/
[ 3/08/2014 12:00:16 am] From: d4@0x2:\2014-03-01-1738-Win7(SSD32)-.6
[ 3/08/2014 12:14:20 am] Operation Completed with Error Code 0
[ 3/08/2014 12:14:22 am] Stop

Brian K
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Location: NSW, Australia

Re: Default Options Defaulting the wrong way?

Post by Brian K »

In IFL and IFD GUI "Show Command", I'm seeing /nvn:"" too.
tas3086
Posts: 321
Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:15 pm

Re: Default Options Defaulting the wrong way?

Post by tas3086 »

Did not check anything, just used the defaults and WCO and V from my environment setting and whatever was in the /ini file, using IFD GUI.
TeraByte Support
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Re: Default Options Defaulting the wrong way?

Post by TeraByte Support »

I couldn't reproduce the V from the environment changing to VB. Does it do
it when using /v on the command line instead of environment?


"tas3086" wrote in message news:7714@public.image...

Backup and Restore operations seem to be using default operations that are
not documented. What am I doing or assuming wrong?

Backup: /VB option being used, yet not requested.
Per your log file, backups seem to be made with the /VB option set, but
byte-for-byte validation was not requested. (see below)
It should be noted that in most cases, PostValidate=0x1 means a standard
validate. Only in the case of a COPY operation will PostValidate=0x1 check
that each byte was copied.

Restore:
Restore: /csig and /nvn options are being used, yet not requested. Log seems
to indicate otherwise. (see Below)
Where did the /CSIG and /NVN:"" come from? They are not the defaults, and I
did not set them anywhere?
The manual states for : /csig : Default if omitted: Image for DOS will not
change the restored disk signature, drive GUIDs, or partition GUIDs.

Here are my operating parameters:
--------------------------------
INI file:
[BACKUP_DEFAULTS]
Compression=12
PostValidate=0x1
MaxFileSize=4294966784

[HD1]
Align2048=1
--------------------------------

BACKUP:

Environment:
;u;hash;comp:13;max:4GiB;logl:4;logmax:1000000;logfile:\IFD.LOG;sch:d3@0x2:\;v;wco
Run Command : IMAGE.EXE /ue /b /base:d3@0x2:"\2014-03-01-1915-E_DRIVE-.TBI"
/f:d3@0x2:"\$~YYYY$-$~MM$-$~DD$-$~HHMM$-E_DRIVE-(I)-"
log file:
[ 3/08/2014 3:00:33 am] C:\.\IMAGE.EXE /ue /b
/base:d3@0x2:\2014-03-01-1915-E_DRIVE-.TBI
/f:d3@0x2:\$~YYYY$-$~MM$-$~DD$-$~HHMM$-E_DRIVE-(I)-
[ 3/08/2014 3:00:36 am] Image for DOS 2.88
[ 3/08/2014 3:00:36 am] Starting ...
IMAGE.EXE /b /u /sch:d3@0x2:"\" /base:d3@0x2:"\2014-03-01-1915-E_DRIVE-"
/f:d3@0x2:"\$~YYYY$-$~MM$-$~DD$-$~HHMM$-E_DRIVE-(I)-" /max:4GiB /v /vb
/comp:13 /hash
[ 3/08/2014 3:00:39 am] Backup: Drive 0 (PATA) E_DRIVE Volume (3B7) 25604
MiB FAT-32
[ 3/08/2014 3:00:39 am] To: d3@0x2:\2014-03-08-0300-E_DRIVE-(I)-.TBI
[ 3/08/2014 3:01:05 am] INFO: Total Sectors:52436097 Total
Allocated:6810720
[ 3/08/2014 3:01:05 am] INFO: 73 Sector(s) backed up
[ 3/08/2014 3:01:05 am] Validating: E_DRIVE Volume (3B7) 25604 MiB FAT-32
[ 3/08/2014 3:01:05 am] From: d3@0x2:\2014-03-08-0300-E_DRIVE-(I)-.TBI
[ 3/08/2014 3:01:05 am] Operation Completed with Error Code 0
[ 3/08/2014 3:01:05 am] Stop

--------------------------------

RESTORE:
Environment:
;u;hash;comp:13;max:4GiB;logl:4;logmax:1000000;logfile:\IFD.LOG;sch:d3@0x2:\;v;wco
Run Command : IMAGE
log file:
[ 3/07/2014 11:52:08 pm] Image for DOS 2.88
[ 3/07/2014 11:52:08 pm] Starting ...
IMAGE.EXE /r /d:d3@0x1 /f:d4@0x2:"\2014-03-01-1738-Win7(SSD32)-" /csig /v
/wco /nvn:""
[ 3/07/2014 11:52:08 pm] Validating: Win7(SSD32) Partition (01) 60000 MiB
Hidden HPFS/NTFS
[ 3/07/2014 11:52:08 pm] To: Drive 3 (PATA) Win7(SSD32) Partition (01) 60000
MiB Hidden HPFS/
[ 3/07/2014 11:52:08 pm] From: d4@0x2:\2014-03-01-1738-Win7(SSD32)-.TBI
[ 3/08/2014 12:00:16 am] Restoring: Win7(SSD32) Partition (01) 60000 MiB
Hidden HPFS/NTFS
[ 3/08/2014 12:00:16 am] To: Drive 3 (PATA) Win7(SSD32) Partition (01) 60000
MiB Hidden HPFS/
[ 3/08/2014 12:00:16 am] From: d4@0x2:\2014-03-01-1738-Win7(SSD32)-.6
[ 3/08/2014 12:14:20 am] Operation Completed with Error Code 0
[ 3/08/2014 12:14:22 am] Stop

TeraByte Support(PP)
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Re: Default Options Defaulting the wrong way?

Post by TeraByte Support(PP) »

Is there a reason your IFD environment variable is beginning with a semicolon? I see the /vb and /csig problem when it's set that way. Removing it lets it work normally.
tas3086
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Re: Default Options Defaulting the wrong way?

Post by tas3086 »

First Class Response !!
It is a placeholder for the con option, that does not work anymore. I will change it.

Thanks for giving it a complete, real-life test. Your support staff take that little bit of extra time to go above and beyond what your competitors do. It is appreciated.
Thank you very much.
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