Why TBWinRE?

[Bob Coleman]

I now do backups mostly with IFW and restores with IFD or IFL. A recent flurry of activity in these forums about TBWinRE (and difficulties with same) prompts me to ask why I would want to use this. Is my understanding that this is primarily a way to boot and use IFW to restore correct? What would be the advantage of being able to do that instead of booting IFD or IFL?

[TAC109]

I've been doing some experiments with PE/RE and I much prefer PE. I get faster generation and much faster loading using PE. I can also generate a 32 bit PE system (on my 64 bit system) which enables me to run some 32 bit programs. (A 64 bit PE can't run 32 bit programs - you get an unhelpful message 'The subsystem needed to support the image type is not present'!)

The down side is the initial large download and install of the 8.1 ADK, but you get the latest drivers and my USB3 works!

Another advantage for me is that my laptop uses Intel's RST (Rapid Storage Technology) so, to use IFL I have to remember to go into the BIOS and change from RST to AHCI before loading IFL, and remember to change back before booting back into Windows.

I'm also investigating to see if I can run my IFW_Backup DOS scripts under a PE/RE environment. While most IFW users (myself included) are happy to backup on a running Windows system, there are some who prefer to backup from a separately loaded system.

[TeraByte Support]

Linux should support intel RST via the md device ?

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/intelligent-systems/software/rst-linux-paper.html

If not, produce a report when booting to IFL -
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=585


"TAC109" wrote in message news:7469@public.image...

I've been doing some experiments with PE/RE and I much prefer PE. I get
faster generation and much faster loading using PE. I can also generate a 32
bit PE system (on my 64 bit system) which enables me to run some 32 bit
programs. (A 64 bit PE can't run 32 bit programs - you get an unhelpful
message 'The subsystem needed to support the image type is not present'!)

The down side is the initial large download and install of the 8.1 ADK, but
you get the latest drivers and my USB3 works!

Another advantage for me is that my laptop uses Intel's RST (Rapid Storage
Technology) so, to use IFL I have to remember to go into the BIOS and change
from RST to AHCI before loading IFL, and remember to change back before
booting back into Windows.

I'm also investigating to see if I can run my IFW_Backup DOS scripts under a
PE/RE environment. While most IFW users (myself included) are happy to
backup on a running Windows system, there are some who prefer to backup from
a separately loaded system.

[TAC109]

I'm not a Linux person - MD didn't show up in the 'mnt' utility, and
no sign of the internal HD in IFL.

report.zip attached.

On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 17:36:28 PST, "TeraByte Support"
wrote:

>Linux should support intel RST via the md device ?
>
>http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/intelligent-systems/software/rst-linux-paper.html
>
>If not, produce a report when booting to IFL -
>http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=585
>
>
>"TAC109" wrote in message news:7469@public.image...
>
>I've been doing some experiments with PE/RE and I much prefer PE. I get
>faster generation and much faster loading using PE. I can also generate a 32
>bit PE system (on my 64 bit system) which enables me to run some 32 bit
>programs. (A 64 bit PE can't run 32 bit programs - you get an unhelpful
>message 'The subsystem needed to support the image type is not present'!)
>
>The down side is the initial large download and install of the 8.1 ADK, but
>you get the latest drivers and my USB3 works!
>
>Another advantage for me is that my laptop uses Intel's RST (Rapid Storage
>Technology) so, to use IFL I have to remember to go into the BIOS and change
>from RST to AHCI before loading IFL, and remember to change back before
>booting back into Windows.
>
>I'm also investigating to see if I can run my IFW_Backup DOS scripts under a
>PE/RE environment. While most IFW users (myself included) are happy to
>backup on a running Windows system, there are some who prefer to backup from
>a separately loaded system.
>

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... rest snipped

[TAC109]

Well, that didn't go too well.

I'll do it on line.

On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:06:15 PST, Tom Cole
wrote:

>I'm not a Linux person - MD didn't show up in the 'mnt' utility, and
>no sign of the internal HD in IFL.
>
>report.zip attached.
>
>On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 17:36:28 PST, "TeraByte Support"
>
> wrote:
>
>>Linux should support intel RST via the md device ?
>>
>>http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/intelligent-systems/software/rst-linux-paper.html
>>
>>If not, produce a report when booting to IFL -
>>http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=585

[Brian K]

Bob Coleman wrote:
> I now do backups mostly with IFW and restores with IFD or IFL.
>What would be the advantage of being able to do that instead of booting IFD or
> IFL?

Bob,

I've used IFL, TBWinRE and TBWinPE. I think IFL is marginally faster than the others for restores on my hardware. As far as I can see it's a personal choice. Use whichever suits you. My wife has a UEFI tablet which doesn't boot IFL but TBWinRE works fine. I saw posts by TAC109 about TBWinPE being faster than TBWinRE but they seem identical on my computer.

My current favourite is restoring OS images using an IFL partition on the HD. Auto, using a bash script.

As you know the IFL and TBWinRE disks have features unrelated to restoring. These features might make you like one better than the other. Or may be irrelevant to your usage.