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Re: Byte-for-byte failure VSS+PHY, but no visible disk issue

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:52 am
by timg11
Here's the log of the last run up to the dump part in case any settings are suspect:

[11/17/2013 7:34:18 PM] /b /un /d:?C: /f:S:\IMAGES\MARS\Auto7\MARS7C.TBI /max:640MiB /vb /mf /logl:50
[11/17/2013 7:34:18 PM] Image for Windows 2.82a (GUI)
[11/17/2013 7:34:18 PM] Starting ...
imagew.exe /b /un /d:w1@0x1 /f:"S:\IMAGES\MARS\Auto7\MARS7C" /max:640MiB /vb
[11/17/2013 7:34:18 PM] PHYLock is waiting for drive writing to stop ...
[11/17/2013 7:34:18 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - DLD
[11/17/2013 7:34:18 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SCLN
[11/17/2013 7:34:18 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - BSFN
[11/17/2013 7:34:18 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SFN:C:\PHYLOCK.SWP
[11/17/2013 7:34:18 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - GNR
[11/17/2013 7:34:18 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - NR:7261
[11/17/2013 7:34:18 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SII VF
[11/17/2013 7:34:18 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SSR
[11/17/2013 7:34:18 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - WLS
[11/17/2013 7:35:08 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SH
[11/17/2013 7:35:08 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - ULV
[11/17/2013 7:35:08 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - CSF
[11/17/2013 7:35:08 PM] PHYLock using drive C:
[11/17/2013 7:35:08 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - EF
[11/17/2013 7:35:08 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SWP:2147483648
[11/17/2013 7:35:08 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - FMLCN
[11/17/2013 7:35:08 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SVCN:0 EC:1
[11/17/2013 7:35:08 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - CH
[11/17/2013 7:35:08 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - RQTFH
[11/17/2013 7:35:08 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SWITCH
[11/17/2013 7:35:08 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - CU
[11/17/2013 7:35:08 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - CUC
[11/17/2013 7:35:08 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - EXIT
[11/17/2013 7:35:08 PM] PHYLock Started
[11/17/2013 7:35:08 PM] PHYLock Using Disk
[11/17/2013 7:35:08 PM] PHYLock version 10
[11/17/2013 7:35:08 PM] Backup: Drive 1 (C:) C-MARS-W7-ssd Partition (01) 238473 MiB HPFS/NTFS
[11/17/2013 7:35:08 PM] To: S:\IMAGES\MARS\Auto7\MARS7C.TBI
[11/17/2013 8:04:23 PM] INFO: Total Sectors:488392002 Total Allocated:158821024
[11/17/2013 8:04:23 PM] INFO: 145981400 Sector(s) backed up
[11/17/2013 8:04:26 PM] Validating: C-MARS-W7-ssd Partition (01) 238473 MiB HPFS/NTFS
[11/17/2013 8:04:26 PM] From: S:\IMAGES\MARS\Auto7\MARS7C.TBI
[11/17/2013 8:17:30 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 75894390 offset 453 (57285)
[11/17/2013 8:17:30 PM] DATA AS BACKED UP: (0460DE00)

Re: Byte-for-byte failure VSS+PHY, but no visible disk issue

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:54 am
by timg11
Is there any way to specify the PHYLOCK.SWP file to use a different drive? Or does it have to be on the same drive that is being backed up?

Re: Byte-for-byte failure VSS+PHY, but no visible disk issue

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:25 am
by timg11
Re-ran the backup with 2.82a again, but this time saving the backup to a different server.
Really interesting results this time. It still reported a byte for byte failure, but the blocks that are presented in the log are identical (I saved the blocks of "DATA AS BACKED UP:" and "DATA NOW ON DISK:" into two files and compared them. They are identical. Is that because of a bug that was fixed between 2.82a and 2.85?

Here's the full log:

[11/17/2013 8:51:29 PM] /b /un /d:?C: /f:S:\IMAGES\MARS\Auto7\MARS7C.TBI /max:640MiB /vb /mf /logl:50
[11/17/2013 8:51:29 PM] Image for Windows 2.82a (GUI)
[11/17/2013 8:51:29 PM] Starting ...
imagew.exe /b /un /d:w1@0x1 /f:"S:\IMAGES\MARS\Auto7\MARS7C" /max:640MiB /vb
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLock is waiting for drive writing to stop ...
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - DLD
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SCLN
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - BSFN
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SFN:C:\PHYLOCK.SWP
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - GNR
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - NR:7234
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SII VF
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SSR
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - WLS
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SH
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - ULV
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - CSF
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLock using drive C:
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - EF
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SWP:2147483648
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - FMLCN
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SVCN:0 EC:1
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - CH
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - RQTFH
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SWITCH
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - CU
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - CUC
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - EXIT
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLock Started
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLock Using Disk
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLock version 10
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] Backup: Drive 1 (C:) C-MARS-W7-ssd Partition (01) 238473 MiB HPFS/NTFS
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] To: S:\IMAGES\MARS\Auto7\MARS7C.TBI
[11/17/2013 9:16:11 PM] INFO: Total Sectors:488392002 Total Allocated:158842024
[11/17/2013 9:16:11 PM] INFO: 146002400 Sector(s) backed up
[11/17/2013 9:16:13 PM] Validating: C-MARS-W7-ssd Partition (01) 238473 MiB HPFS/NTFS
[11/17/2013 9:16:13 PM] From: S:\IMAGES\MARS\Auto7\MARS7C.TBI
[11/17/2013 9:21:56 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 47188088 offset 341 (29525)
[11/17/2013 9:21:56 PM] DATA AS BACKED UP: (04477200)
6A 02 57 E8 D8 F2 FF FF 83 C4 1C 5F 5E 5B 8B E5
5D C3 CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC
55 8B EC 83 E4 F8 51 53 56 6A 00 6A 00 6A 00 57
E8 4B FB FF FF 83 C4 14 56 6A 00 6A 00 57 8B D8
E8 0B FE FF FF 83 C4 10 8B C3 5B 8B E5 5D C3 CC
8A 17 33 C0 84 D2 C7 06 02 00 00 00 C7 03 7E EA
05 10 75 18 39 41 0C 0F 85 DE 02 00 00 BA 01 00
00 00 01 51 14 01 51 20 89 51 0C C3 8A 4F 01 0F
BE D2 83 C2 9F 83 FA 12 0F 87 BD 02 00 00 FF 24
95 4C 61 00 10 80 F9 61 75 06 B8 C4 EB 05 10 C3
80 F9 64 75 0C B8 5C EB 05 10 C7 06 01 00 00 00
C3 80 F9 6E 75 06 B8 5C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 4E 75
06 B8 DC EA 05 10 C3 80 F9 53 0F 85 7B 02 00 00
B8 7C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 6C 75 0C B8 FC EB 05 10
C7 06 00 00 00 00 C3 80 F9 6D 75 06 B8 E4 EB 05
10 C3 80 F9 6F 75 0C B8 6C EB 05 10 C7 06 01 00
00 00 C3 80 F9 76 0F 85 3F 02 00 00 B8 80 EA 05
10 C7 06 01 00 00 00 C3 80 F9 61 75 06 B8 FC F0
05 10 C3 80 F9 65 75 0C B8 3C EB 05 10 C7 06 01
00 00 00 C3 80 F9 6C 75 06 B8 08 F1 05 10 C3 80
F9 76 75 06 B8 44 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 56 0F 85 F8
01 00 00 B8 C4 EA 05 10 C3 80 F9 6F 75 06 B8 54
EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 4F 75 06 B8 D4 EA 05 10 C3 80
F9 71 0F 85 D3 01 00 00 B8 A4 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9
65 75 06 B8 BC EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 74 0F 85 B9 01
00 00 B8 8C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 78 0F 85 AA 01 00
00 B8 94 EA 05 10 C7 03 98 EA 05 10 C3 80 F9 65
75 06 B8 B4 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 73 75 06 B8 94 EB
05 10 C3 80 F9 53 75 06 B8 F4 EA 05 10 C3 80 F9
74 0F 85 74 01 00 00 B8 84 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 69
75 06 B8 34 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 49 75 06 B8 B4 EA
05 10 C3 80 F9 6C 75 06 B8 3C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9
[11/17/2013 9:21:56 PM] DATA NOW ON DISK: (01D07200)
6A 02 57 E8 D8 F2 FF FF 83 C4 1C 5F 5E 5B 8B E5
5D C3 CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC
55 8B EC 83 E4 F8 51 53 56 6A 00 6A 00 6A 00 57
E8 4B FB FF FF 83 C4 14 56 6A 00 6A 00 57 8B D8
E8 0B FE FF FF 83 C4 10 8B C3 5B 8B E5 5D C3 CC
8A 17 33 C0 84 D2 C7 06 02 00 00 00 C7 03 7E EA
05 10 75 18 39 41 0C 0F 85 DE 02 00 00 BA 01 00
00 00 01 51 14 01 51 20 89 51 0C C3 8A 4F 01 0F
BE D2 83 C2 9F 83 FA 12 0F 87 BD 02 00 00 FF 24
95 4C 61 00 10 80 F9 61 75 06 B8 C4 EB 05 10 C3
80 F9 64 75 0C B8 5C EB 05 10 C7 06 01 00 00 00
C3 80 F9 6E 75 06 B8 5C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 4E 75
06 B8 DC EA 05 10 C3 80 F9 53 0F 85 7B 02 00 00
B8 7C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 6C 75 0C B8 FC EB 05 10
C7 06 00 00 00 00 C3 80 F9 6D 75 06 B8 E4 EB 05
10 C3 80 F9 6F 75 0C B8 6C EB 05 10 C7 06 01 00
00 00 C3 80 F9 76 0F 85 3F 02 00 00 B8 80 EA 05
10 C7 06 01 00 00 00 C3 80 F9 61 75 06 B8 FC F0
05 10 C3 80 F9 65 75 0C B8 3C EB 05 10 C7 06 01
00 00 00 C3 80 F9 6C 75 06 B8 08 F1 05 10 C3 80
F9 76 75 06 B8 44 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 56 0F 85 F8
01 00 00 B8 C4 EA 05 10 C3 80 F9 6F 75 06 B8 54
EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 4F 75 06 B8 D4 EA 05 10 C3 80
F9 71 0F 85 D3 01 00 00 B8 A4 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9
65 75 06 B8 BC EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 74 0F 85 B9 01
00 00 B8 8C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 78 0F 85 AA 01 00
00 B8 94 EA 05 10 C7 03 98 EA 05 10 C3 80 F9 65
75 06 B8 B4 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 73 75 06 B8 94 EB
05 10 C3 80 F9 53 75 06 B8 F4 EA 05 10 C3 80 F9
74 0F 85 74 01 00 00 B8 84 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 69
75 06 B8 34 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 49 75 06 B8 B4 EA
05 10 C3 80 F9 6C 75 06 B8 3C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9
[11/17/2013 9:21:56 PM] Deleting incomplete or failed backup.
[11/17/2013 9:21:57 PM] Deleting S:\IMAGES\MARS\Auto7\MARS7C.TBI
[11/17/2013 9:21:57 PM] Operation Completed with Error Code 200
[11/17/2013 9:21:57 PM] Byte-for-Byte comparison failed
[11/17/2013 9:21:57 PM] Stop

Re: Byte-for-byte failure VSS+PHY, but no visible disk issue

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:49 pm
by timg11
I also tried backing up with IFL 2.85 from a CD Boot. I still got a byte for byte failure.

Where is the log saved when you boot from the IFL CD-ROM?

Re: Byte-for-byte failure VSS+PHY, but no visible disk issue

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:48 pm
by TeraByte Support
No, that hasn't been changed in a while - could be using different memory
areas if say the require memory area changes of what to read, could read
something else.


"timg11" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

I went back to IFW 2.82a just as a check, and there is a difference.

With over 10 backups attempted with IFW V 2.85, every "data as backed up" is
a block of zeros, and "Data now on disk" is a block of mixed data.

With 2.82a, I still get a Byte-for-byte failure, but the difference is a
single bit. Both blocks are mixed data.

Data As Backed up, row 29: "50 8B CB E8 C0 8C FF FF 8B 45 AC 8B 88 9C 00 00
"
Data Now on Disk, row 29: "50 8B CB E8 C0 88 FF FF 8B 45 AC 8B 88 9C 00
00"

One bit in one byte changed - 8C to 88, all other bytes are identical.

Next step is to order a new SSD drive. I'll try Toshiba this time.


Re: Byte-for-byte failure VSS+PHY, but no visible disk issue

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:48 pm
by TeraByte Support
needs to be the same physical drive.

"timg11" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

Is there any way to specify the PHYLOCK.SWP file to use a different drive?
Or does it have to be on the same drive that is being backed up?


Re: Byte-for-byte failure VSS+PHY, but no visible disk issue

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:50 pm
by TeraByte Support
sure seems like memory - if memory compare fails, then compares again to
find offset, then when it goes to output it's a match, the third read was
okay?



"timg11" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

Re-ran the backup with 2.82a again, but this time saving the backup to a
different server.
Really interesting results this time. It still reported a byte for byte
failure, but the blocks that are presented in the log are identical (I saved
the blocks of "DATA AS BACKED UP:" and "DATA NOW ON DISK:" into two files
and compared them. They are identical. Is that because of a bug that was
fixed between 2.82a and 2.85?

Here's the full log:

[11/17/2013 8:51:29 PM] /b /un /d:?C: /f:S:\IMAGES\MARS\Auto7\MARS7C.TBI
/max:640MiB /vb /mf /logl:50
[11/17/2013 8:51:29 PM] Image for Windows 2.82a (GUI)
[11/17/2013 8:51:29 PM] Starting ...
imagew.exe /b /un /d:w1@0x1 /f:"S:\IMAGES\MARS\Auto7\MARS7C" /max:640MiB /vb
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLock is waiting for drive writing to stop ...
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - DLD
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SCLN
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - BSFN
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SFN:C:\PHYLOCK.SWP
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - GNR
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - NR:7234
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SII VF
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SSR
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - WLS
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SH
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - ULV
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - CSF
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLock using drive C:
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - EF
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SWP:2147483648
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - FMLCN
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SVCN:0 EC:1
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - CH
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - RQTFH
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SWITCH
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - CU
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - CUC
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - EXIT
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLock Started
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLock Using Disk
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLock version 10
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] Backup: Drive 1 (C:) C-MARS-W7-ssd Partition (01)
238473 MiB HPFS/NTFS
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] To: S:\IMAGES\MARS\Auto7\MARS7C.TBI
[11/17/2013 9:16:11 PM] INFO: Total Sectors:488392002 Total
Allocated:158842024
[11/17/2013 9:16:11 PM] INFO: 146002400 Sector(s) backed up
[11/17/2013 9:16:13 PM] Validating: C-MARS-W7-ssd Partition (01) 238473 MiB
HPFS/NTFS
[11/17/2013 9:16:13 PM] From: S:\IMAGES\MARS\Auto7\MARS7C.TBI
[11/17/2013 9:21:56 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 47188088 offset 341
(29525)
[11/17/2013 9:21:56 PM] DATA AS BACKED UP: (04477200)
6A 02 57 E8 D8 F2 FF FF 83 C4 1C 5F 5E 5B 8B E5
5D C3 CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC
55 8B EC 83 E4 F8 51 53 56 6A 00 6A 00 6A 00 57
E8 4B FB FF FF 83 C4 14 56 6A 00 6A 00 57 8B D8
E8 0B FE FF FF 83 C4 10 8B C3 5B 8B E5 5D C3 CC
8A 17 33 C0 84 D2 C7 06 02 00 00 00 C7 03 7E EA
05 10 75 18 39 41 0C 0F 85 DE 02 00 00 BA 01 00
00 00 01 51 14 01 51 20 89 51 0C C3 8A 4F 01 0F
BE D2 83 C2 9F 83 FA 12 0F 87 BD 02 00 00 FF 24
95 4C 61 00 10 80 F9 61 75 06 B8 C4 EB 05 10 C3
80 F9 64 75 0C B8 5C EB 05 10 C7 06 01 00 00 00
C3 80 F9 6E 75 06 B8 5C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 4E 75
06 B8 DC EA 05 10 C3 80 F9 53 0F 85 7B 02 00 00
B8 7C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 6C 75 0C B8 FC EB 05 10
C7 06 00 00 00 00 C3 80 F9 6D 75 06 B8 E4 EB 05
10 C3 80 F9 6F 75 0C B8 6C EB 05 10 C7 06 01 00
00 00 C3 80 F9 76 0F 85 3F 02 00 00 B8 80 EA 05
10 C7 06 01 00 00 00 C3 80 F9 61 75 06 B8 FC F0
05 10 C3 80 F9 65 75 0C B8 3C EB 05 10 C7 06 01
00 00 00 C3 80 F9 6C 75 06 B8 08 F1 05 10 C3 80
F9 76 75 06 B8 44 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 56 0F 85 F8
01 00 00 B8 C4 EA 05 10 C3 80 F9 6F 75 06 B8 54
EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 4F 75 06 B8 D4 EA 05 10 C3 80
F9 71 0F 85 D3 01 00 00 B8 A4 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9
65 75 06 B8 BC EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 74 0F 85 B9 01
00 00 B8 8C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 78 0F 85 AA 01 00
00 B8 94 EA 05 10 C7 03 98 EA 05 10 C3 80 F9 65
75 06 B8 B4 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 73 75 06 B8 94 EB
05 10 C3 80 F9 53 75 06 B8 F4 EA 05 10 C3 80 F9
74 0F 85 74 01 00 00 B8 84 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 69
75 06 B8 34 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 49 75 06 B8 B4 EA
05 10 C3 80 F9 6C 75 06 B8 3C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9
[11/17/2013 9:21:56 PM] DATA NOW ON DISK: (01D07200)
6A 02 57 E8 D8 F2 FF FF 83 C4 1C 5F 5E 5B 8B E5
5D C3 CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC
55 8B EC 83 E4 F8 51 53 56 6A 00 6A 00 6A 00 57
E8 4B FB FF FF 83 C4 14 56 6A 00 6A 00 57 8B D8
E8 0B FE FF FF 83 C4 10 8B C3 5B 8B E5 5D C3 CC
8A 17 33 C0 84 D2 C7 06 02 00 00 00 C7 03 7E EA
05 10 75 18 39 41 0C 0F 85 DE 02 00 00 BA 01 00
00 00 01 51 14 01 51 20 89 51 0C C3 8A 4F 01 0F
BE D2 83 C2 9F 83 FA 12 0F 87 BD 02 00 00 FF 24
95 4C 61 00 10 80 F9 61 75 06 B8 C4 EB 05 10 C3
80 F9 64 75 0C B8 5C EB 05 10 C7 06 01 00 00 00
C3 80 F9 6E 75 06 B8 5C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 4E 75
06 B8 DC EA 05 10 C3 80 F9 53 0F 85 7B 02 00 00
B8 7C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 6C 75 0C B8 FC EB 05 10
C7 06 00 00 00 00 C3 80 F9 6D 75 06 B8 E4 EB 05
10 C3 80 F9 6F 75 0C B8 6C EB 05 10 C7 06 01 00
00 00 C3 80 F9 76 0F 85 3F 02 00 00 B8 80 EA 05
10 C7 06 01 00 00 00 C3 80 F9 61 75 06 B8 FC F0
05 10 C3 80 F9 65 75 0C B8 3C EB 05 10 C7 06 01
00 00 00 C3 80 F9 6C 75 06 B8 08 F1 05 10 C3 80
F9 76 75 06 B8 44 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 56 0F 85 F8
01 00 00 B8 C4 EA 05 10 C3 80 F9 6F 75 06 B8 54
EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 4F 75 06 B8 D4 EA 05 10 C3 80
F9 71 0F 85 D3 01 00 00 B8 A4 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9
65 75 06 B8 BC EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 74 0F 85 B9 01
00 00 B8 8C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 78 0F 85 AA 01 00
00 B8 94 EA 05 10 C7 03 98 EA 05 10 C3 80 F9 65
75 06 B8 B4 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 73 75 06 B8 94 EB
05 10 C3 80 F9 53 75 06 B8 F4 EA 05 10 C3 80 F9
74 0F 85 74 01 00 00 B8 84 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 69
75 06 B8 34 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 49 75 06 B8 B4 EA
05 10 C3 80 F9 6C 75 06 B8 3C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9
[11/17/2013 9:21:56 PM] Deleting incomplete or failed backup.
[11/17/2013 9:21:57 PM] Deleting S:\IMAGES\MARS\Auto7\MARS7C.TBI
[11/17/2013 9:21:57 PM] Operation Completed with Error Code 200
[11/17/2013 9:21:57 PM] Byte-for-Byte comparison failed
[11/17/2013 9:21:57 PM] Stop


Re: Byte-for-byte failure VSS+PHY, but no visible disk issue

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:50 pm
by TeraByte Support
it's in RAM - you have to save it or look at it before rebooting.



"timg11" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

I also tried backing up with IFL 2.85 from a CD Boot. I still got a byte
for byte failure.

Where is the log saved when you boot from the IFL CD-ROM?


Re: Byte-for-byte failure VSS+PHY, but no visible disk issue

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:55 pm
by TeraByte Support
one other thing it could be if it's specific to the drive is the data is
still being transferred when its being reported that the transfer is
complete and releases the OS driver to say the transaction is complete and
it goes get the data and it's changing as its accessing it.


"TeraByte Support" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

sure seems like memory - if memory compare fails, then compares again to
find offset, then when it goes to output it's a match, the third read was
okay?



"timg11" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

Re-ran the backup with 2.82a again, but this time saving the backup to a
different server.
Really interesting results this time. It still reported a byte for byte
failure, but the blocks that are presented in the log are identical (I saved
the blocks of "DATA AS BACKED UP:" and "DATA NOW ON DISK:" into two files
and compared them. They are identical. Is that because of a bug that was
fixed between 2.82a and 2.85?

Here's the full log:

[11/17/2013 8:51:29 PM] /b /un /d:?C: /f:S:\IMAGES\MARS\Auto7\MARS7C.TBI
/max:640MiB /vb /mf /logl:50
[11/17/2013 8:51:29 PM] Image for Windows 2.82a (GUI)
[11/17/2013 8:51:29 PM] Starting ...
imagew.exe /b /un /d:w1@0x1 /f:"S:\IMAGES\MARS\Auto7\MARS7C" /max:640MiB /vb
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLock is waiting for drive writing to stop ...
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - DLD
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SCLN
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - BSFN
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SFN:C:\PHYLOCK.SWP
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - GNR
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - NR:7234
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SII VF
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SSR
[11/17/2013 8:51:30 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - WLS
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SH
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - ULV
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - CSF
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLock using drive C:
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - EF
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SWP:2147483648
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - FMLCN
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SVCN:0 EC:1
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - CH
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - RQTFH
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - SWITCH
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - CU
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - CUC
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLOCK: Check Point - EXIT
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLock Started
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLock Using Disk
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] PHYLock version 10
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] Backup: Drive 1 (C:) C-MARS-W7-ssd Partition (01)
238473 MiB HPFS/NTFS
[11/17/2013 8:51:57 PM] To: S:\IMAGES\MARS\Auto7\MARS7C.TBI
[11/17/2013 9:16:11 PM] INFO: Total Sectors:488392002 Total
Allocated:158842024
[11/17/2013 9:16:11 PM] INFO: 146002400 Sector(s) backed up
[11/17/2013 9:16:13 PM] Validating: C-MARS-W7-ssd Partition (01) 238473 MiB
HPFS/NTFS
[11/17/2013 9:16:13 PM] From: S:\IMAGES\MARS\Auto7\MARS7C.TBI
[11/17/2013 9:21:56 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 47188088 offset 341
(29525)
[11/17/2013 9:21:56 PM] DATA AS BACKED UP: (04477200)
6A 02 57 E8 D8 F2 FF FF 83 C4 1C 5F 5E 5B 8B E5
5D C3 CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC
55 8B EC 83 E4 F8 51 53 56 6A 00 6A 00 6A 00 57
E8 4B FB FF FF 83 C4 14 56 6A 00 6A 00 57 8B D8
E8 0B FE FF FF 83 C4 10 8B C3 5B 8B E5 5D C3 CC
8A 17 33 C0 84 D2 C7 06 02 00 00 00 C7 03 7E EA
05 10 75 18 39 41 0C 0F 85 DE 02 00 00 BA 01 00
00 00 01 51 14 01 51 20 89 51 0C C3 8A 4F 01 0F
BE D2 83 C2 9F 83 FA 12 0F 87 BD 02 00 00 FF 24
95 4C 61 00 10 80 F9 61 75 06 B8 C4 EB 05 10 C3
80 F9 64 75 0C B8 5C EB 05 10 C7 06 01 00 00 00
C3 80 F9 6E 75 06 B8 5C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 4E 75
06 B8 DC EA 05 10 C3 80 F9 53 0F 85 7B 02 00 00
B8 7C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 6C 75 0C B8 FC EB 05 10
C7 06 00 00 00 00 C3 80 F9 6D 75 06 B8 E4 EB 05
10 C3 80 F9 6F 75 0C B8 6C EB 05 10 C7 06 01 00
00 00 C3 80 F9 76 0F 85 3F 02 00 00 B8 80 EA 05
10 C7 06 01 00 00 00 C3 80 F9 61 75 06 B8 FC F0
05 10 C3 80 F9 65 75 0C B8 3C EB 05 10 C7 06 01
00 00 00 C3 80 F9 6C 75 06 B8 08 F1 05 10 C3 80
F9 76 75 06 B8 44 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 56 0F 85 F8
01 00 00 B8 C4 EA 05 10 C3 80 F9 6F 75 06 B8 54
EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 4F 75 06 B8 D4 EA 05 10 C3 80
F9 71 0F 85 D3 01 00 00 B8 A4 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9
65 75 06 B8 BC EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 74 0F 85 B9 01
00 00 B8 8C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 78 0F 85 AA 01 00
00 B8 94 EA 05 10 C7 03 98 EA 05 10 C3 80 F9 65
75 06 B8 B4 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 73 75 06 B8 94 EB
05 10 C3 80 F9 53 75 06 B8 F4 EA 05 10 C3 80 F9
74 0F 85 74 01 00 00 B8 84 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 69
75 06 B8 34 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 49 75 06 B8 B4 EA
05 10 C3 80 F9 6C 75 06 B8 3C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9
[11/17/2013 9:21:56 PM] DATA NOW ON DISK: (01D07200)
6A 02 57 E8 D8 F2 FF FF 83 C4 1C 5F 5E 5B 8B E5
5D C3 CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC CC
55 8B EC 83 E4 F8 51 53 56 6A 00 6A 00 6A 00 57
E8 4B FB FF FF 83 C4 14 56 6A 00 6A 00 57 8B D8
E8 0B FE FF FF 83 C4 10 8B C3 5B 8B E5 5D C3 CC
8A 17 33 C0 84 D2 C7 06 02 00 00 00 C7 03 7E EA
05 10 75 18 39 41 0C 0F 85 DE 02 00 00 BA 01 00
00 00 01 51 14 01 51 20 89 51 0C C3 8A 4F 01 0F
BE D2 83 C2 9F 83 FA 12 0F 87 BD 02 00 00 FF 24
95 4C 61 00 10 80 F9 61 75 06 B8 C4 EB 05 10 C3
80 F9 64 75 0C B8 5C EB 05 10 C7 06 01 00 00 00
C3 80 F9 6E 75 06 B8 5C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 4E 75
06 B8 DC EA 05 10 C3 80 F9 53 0F 85 7B 02 00 00
B8 7C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 6C 75 0C B8 FC EB 05 10
C7 06 00 00 00 00 C3 80 F9 6D 75 06 B8 E4 EB 05
10 C3 80 F9 6F 75 0C B8 6C EB 05 10 C7 06 01 00
00 00 C3 80 F9 76 0F 85 3F 02 00 00 B8 80 EA 05
10 C7 06 01 00 00 00 C3 80 F9 61 75 06 B8 FC F0
05 10 C3 80 F9 65 75 0C B8 3C EB 05 10 C7 06 01
00 00 00 C3 80 F9 6C 75 06 B8 08 F1 05 10 C3 80
F9 76 75 06 B8 44 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 56 0F 85 F8
01 00 00 B8 C4 EA 05 10 C3 80 F9 6F 75 06 B8 54
EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 4F 75 06 B8 D4 EA 05 10 C3 80
F9 71 0F 85 D3 01 00 00 B8 A4 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9
65 75 06 B8 BC EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 74 0F 85 B9 01
00 00 B8 8C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 78 0F 85 AA 01 00
00 B8 94 EA 05 10 C7 03 98 EA 05 10 C3 80 F9 65
75 06 B8 B4 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 73 75 06 B8 94 EB
05 10 C3 80 F9 53 75 06 B8 F4 EA 05 10 C3 80 F9
74 0F 85 74 01 00 00 B8 84 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 69
75 06 B8 34 EB 05 10 C3 80 F9 49 75 06 B8 B4 EA
05 10 C3 80 F9 6C 75 06 B8 3C EB 05 10 C3 80 F9
[11/17/2013 9:21:56 PM] Deleting incomplete or failed backup.
[11/17/2013 9:21:57 PM] Deleting S:\IMAGES\MARS\Auto7\MARS7C.TBI
[11/17/2013 9:21:57 PM] Operation Completed with Error Code 200
[11/17/2013 9:21:57 PM] Byte-for-Byte comparison failed
[11/17/2013 9:21:57 PM] Stop


Re: Byte-for-byte failure VSS+PHY, but no visible disk issue

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:39 am
by timg11
The data below shows all the byte for byte failures, looked up with FINDLBAF to associate with files.
I opened a few of the files to see if either of the "DATA AS BACKED UP: " (all zeros), or the "DATA NOW ON DISK:" matched the content of the file.

I selected the file "screen1_131117-205128.png" because it was reasonably small (about 1Mbyte) and contained data throughout (no big blocks of zeros).

I verified that there were no blocks of 512 adjacent zeros (So the Data As Backed Up could not be correct). Then I selected various blocks of the data that was reported in the IFW Log under "DATA NOW ON DISK:", and tried to find them in the file. Strangely, there is no place where the 512 bytes reported as "DATA NOW ON DISK: in the IFW log appear in the file at that location.

I'm still wondering if FINDLBAF is working correctly. When I run FINDLBAF on Drive 0 (My H: Drive) I get:
C:\Batch>findlbaf 0 10000
Finding file using LBA 10000 on drive 0...
Found Partition: H-MARS-1.5T 1430796MB (0003) HPFS/NTFS

It reports the volume name.

On Drive 2: (My D: Drive)
C:\Batch>findlbaf 2 500000000
Finding file using LBA 500000000 on drive 2...
Found Partition: D-MARS 773865MB (004F) HPFS/NTFS

It also reports the volume name.

On the Samsung SSD:

C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 6780450
Finding file using LBA 6780450 on drive 1...
Found Partition: MBR 0 238473MB (0001) HPFS/NTFS

The volume name is "C-MARS-W7-ssd", Not MBR 0.

What is MBR 0? Why is that displayed instead of the Volume? The size (238473MB ) is correct for the SSD, though.

Now I'm proceeding to move the SSD to a notebook computer and try backing up with IFL.


-------------Data of FINDLBAF results----------------------------------------------------------------------------
C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 6780450
Unable to determine which file uses LBA 6780450

C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 245016703
Found file \System Volume Information\{fd63c498-442f-11e3-b93d-b277b58682ad}{3808876b-c176-4e48-b7ae-04046e6cc752} uses LBA 245016703

C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 181786143
Unable to determine which file uses LBA 181786143

C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 100159223
Unable to determine which file uses LBA 100159223

C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 6249215
Found file \Users\Tim\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer\thumbcache_256.db uses LBA 6249215

C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 248732191
Found file \System Volume Information\{23b378be-4959-11e3-99ec-001a4d56d0e7}{3808876b-c176-4e48-b7ae-04046e6cc752} uses LBA 248732191

C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 249862559
Found file \System Volume Information\{23b378be-4959-11e3-99ec-001a4d56d0e7}{3808876b-c176-4e48-b7ae-04046e6cc752} uses LBA 249862559

C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 106884465
Found file \Program Files\TeraByte Unlimited\TeraByte OSD Tool Suite Pro\dos_tbos\maketbos.exe uses LBA 106884465

C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 106884943
Found file \Program Files\TeraByte Unlimited\TeraByte OSD Tool Suite Pro\dos_tbos\maketbos.exe uses LBA 106884943

C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 3323410
Found file \Program Files\Adobe\Reader 10.0\Reader\plug_ins\Annots.api uses LBA 3323410

C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 156791679
Found file \System Volume Information\{23b37983-4959-11e3-99ec-001a4d56d0e7}{3808876b-c176-4e48-b7ae-04046e6cc752} uses LBA 156791679

C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 172871717
Unable to determine which file uses LBA 172871717

C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 148404307
Found file \Windows\Installer\{0CD47142-BA4F-46B0-AA92-2675864928B8}\MSEPrerelease.exe uses LBA 148404307

C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 85286172
Found file \Data\Temp\Logs\screen1_131117-205128.png uses LBA 85286172

C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 106016625
Unable to determine which file uses LBA 106016625

C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 253936095
Found file \System Volume Information\{7344c522-4fcc-11e3-8210-001a4d56d0e7}{3808876b-c176-4e48-b7ae-04046e6cc752} uses LBA 253936095

C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 5244511
Found file \Users\Tim\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer\thumbcache_96.db uses LBA 5244511

C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 75894390
Found file \Windows\winsxs\Backup\x86_microsoft-windows-cmi_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.17514_none_abd5b433b8ccf7a4_cmiv2.dll_be06aa9f uses LBA 75894390

C:\Batch>FINDLBAF 1 47188088
Found file \Data\DEV\TI\ccsv5\eclipse\plugins\com.ti.dvt.ofssymbolmanager_3.4.0.201304031516\dvt_tiofr11.dll uses LBA 47188088