Windows 10 Recovery Environment

[Brian K]

CyberSimian wrote:
>
> But the version of Windows 10 that I have
> (1607) creates two additional partitions ("MS Reserved" and
> "Recovery") if there are free entries in the MBR. Possibly current
> versions of Windows 10 behave differently.
>

CyberSimian,

I found my 1607 ISO. BIBM was installed to a blank SSD. Using unlimited primaries and the TeraByte method, 1607 was installed. 1607 installed without extra partitions. The Win10 partition only (In addition to the BIBM partition)

The test was repeated using limited primaries. Same result.

The test was repeated using the Microsoft method. BIBM was still present. In addition to the Win10 partition and the BIBM partition an extra partition was created. A 500 MB (Active) System Reserved Partition. A Recovery partition wasn't created.

BIBM was uninstalled and 1607 was installed using the Microsoft method to the blank SSD. This resulted in a 500 MB (Active) System Reserved Partition and a Win10 partition. Two partitions.

[TeraByte Support(PP)]

Brian,

It varies depending on the version of Windows 10. You could check the System Reserved partition and see if it contains WinRE.

[Brian K]

TeraByte Support(PP) wrote:
> Brian,
>
> It varies depending on the version of Windows 10. You could check the
> System Reserved partition and see if it contains WinRE.

Thanks Paul, Win10 is gone now.

[Brian K]

I installed 1607 again. The SRP does contain Recovery\WindowsRE.

[AGH1965]

Brian K wrote:
> Using unlimited primaries and the TeraByte method ...
> ...
> The test was repeated using the Microsoft method.

Brian, thank you for doing some tests, but what do you mean with the Terabyte method and the Microsoft method?

[Brian K]

AGH1965 wrote:
, but what do you mean with the Terabyte method
> and the Microsoft method?

AGH1965,

The Microsoft method. Boot Win10 media and install into Free Space. You can choose the size of the Win10 partition by clicking New. Otherwise the partitions will fill the Free Space.

The TeraByte method. See the HowTo page...
https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/howto/index.htm

Under BootIt Bare Metal select "Installing Windows XP to its Own Primary Partition (video)". Other videos are well worth viewing. Basically the method is...

In BIBM create a NTFS partition for the future Win10
Setup a Boot Item for Win10
Attempt to boot the Item. It will fail to boot as there is no OS but this sets the NTFS partition Active and sets the partition table to the partitions you chose in Boot Edit. The filled slots in MBR Details
Press Ctrl-Alt-Del to Reboot and boot your Win10 media
Install to the partition you created. You will see the partition Type is System, meaning the partition is Active
No extra partitions will be created

[AGH1965]

@Brian K: Thanks for the explanation. I always use what you call the Terabyte method, i.e. install Windows in a partition created with BIBM. However, instead of trying to boot an unbootable partition and then reboot with Crtl+Alt+Del, I always use BIBM's "One Time Option > Next BIOS Device" with the next BIOS device being the Windows 10 installation media. That is much easier.

[Brian K]

AGH1965 wrote:
> I always use BIBM's
> "One Time Option > Next BIOS Device" with the next BIOS device being the
> Windows 10 installation media. That is much easier.

AGH1965,

Even though you get a single partition Win10 I don't think you are setting the partition table. When you next do a Win10 install, have a look at the Win10 partition in the Microsoft installer. Is the Win10 partition "System" type?

Perhaps TeraByte Support could comment?

[AGH1965]

@Brian K: I just verified to be absolutely sure, but it is as I expected. If you configure a certain partition as boot partition in BIBM's boot menu, then BIBM sets the type of that partition to "system" before executing the configured "one time option". So the Windows installer indeed shows the type being "system".

[DrTeeth]

On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 10:18:49 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
TeraByte Support(PP) disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>If you don't want the additional partition created you have to make sure there is no room to create one (fill the partition slots). Also, don't count on "Windows always did... whatever" since they change things quite often.

Or just delete it and expand the Windows partition to its original
size.
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Cheers,

DrT

** Amateurs built the Ark, but professionals built the Titanic.**