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MBR booting new motherboard

Postby DrTeeth » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:01 am

Hi,

I as buying a new PC. It will have the MSI Z370 PC PRO motherboard. I
have configured the system myself. The plan is to put in my current
MBR drives so be up and running in pretty short order. I have done
this before many times and it works 100%.

It looks like the motherboard's BIOS will allow legacy booting. Are
there any that do NOT allow this?

I just do not want to buy an expensive paperweight or use UEFI/GPT
disks.
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Re: MBR booting new motherboard

Postby Brian K » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:16 pm

DrTeeth wrote:

> It looks like the motherboard's BIOS will allow legacy booting. Are
> there any that do NOT allow this?
>

Our Asus Vivo Tab doesn't have legacy booting. UEFI only.
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Re: MBR booting new motherboard

Postby DrTeeth » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:09 am

On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 19:16:56 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
Brian K disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>Our Asus Vivo Tab doesn't have legacy booting. UEFI only.

I have gone for an MSI Z370 board which looks as if it does support
legacy booting.

I have gone off Asus big time and would rather use an abacus than an
Asus-equipped PC.

I am currently using a first generation i7 and hope that my keyboard
and mouse will work okay with BIBM.
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Re: MBR booting new motherboard

Postby Brian K » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:43 pm

DrTeeth wrote:
>
> I have gone for an MSI Z370 board which looks as if it does support
> legacy booting.
>


Which CPU will you be using with the new MB?
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Re: MBR booting new motherboard

Postby DrTeeth » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:16 am

On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 23:43:32 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
Brian K disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>DrTeeth wrote:

>Which CPU will you be using with the new MB?

The i7 8086K 4.0GHz Hexa Core with a liquid cooling unit.
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Re: MBR booting new motherboard

Postby Brian K » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:17 pm

DrTeeth wrote:
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>
> The i7 8086K 4.0GHz Hexa Core with a liquid cooling unit.
> --

Nice, I have an i3-8100 and it's faster than my old i7-3770.
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Re: MBR booting new motherboard

Postby DrTeeth » Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:05 pm

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:17:33 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
Brian K disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>
>Nice, I have an i3-8100 and it's faster than my old i7-3770.

Every time I have upgraded, I have been under whelmed by performance
increases, which it is why I have left it for so long this time. One
by one, the integrated bits on my motherboard (sound, networking etc)
have died and been replaced by discrete cards. The hardware itself
remains reliable.

I have ordered it ready made as under UK consumer law, it will qualify
as a computer and be treated as one unit. If I bought the parts and
built it myself (which I have done several times in the past*) it
would be a logistical nightmare if dealing with an unreliable
retailer. I am buying from a top notch retailer so no worries.

*You may have seen me mention several times that one can just swap
hard drives between computers. The last time I bought bits there was
some funky incompatibility and my hard drive had 4-5 swaps of hardware
without any issue other than having to validate windows, which was
impressively painless as it was a retail version. Each higher version
of windows is better as it contains more drivers. The thing that gave
this a bad name was that under XP, one *had* to replace the third
party chipset drivers with the vanilla MSoft ones to avoid a BSOD.

I wonder if I will notice any drive improvements as they are all SATA
3 connected to SATA 2 interfaces. My main OS drive is a hybrid. Have
you any experience with Optane memory, especially using it on versions
of windows below 10? There are drivers available.

To save problems in the future, I have invested in an OEM copy of
windows 10 that will replace my current (cough, cough) free version if
activation issues raise their head.

OT:- My mind boggles when I read the posts here about the number of
partitions a GPT disk needs. My first instinct would be to clean up
the mess, LOLZ.
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Re: MBR booting new motherboard

Postby Brian K » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:01 pm

> Have you any experience with Optane memory,

No experience with Optane memory. My MB supports Optane memory but all my drives are SSDs.

> My mind boggles when I read the posts here about the number of
>partitions a GPT disk needs.

It's no more difficult than managing a single partition OS. Just backup the 4 partitions as one image or restore the 4 partitions together from the one image.
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Re: MBR booting new motherboard

Postby DrTeeth » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:43 am

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 19:01:36 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
Brian K disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>It's no more difficult than managing a single partition OS. Just backup the 4 partitions as one image or restore the 4 partitions together from the one image.

But why have 4 when 1 will do? I have been scrabbling around looking
for a "GPT for Dummies" guide without success.

As my PC will be a beast, I *may* think of getting an SSD, but I would
want a direct replacement for my 2TB OS drive at a similar, but not
identical price. I'd be better off spending my £ on memory any keeping
my regularly used apps there.

From what I have read the reliability is not a good as a conventional
disk yet.
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Re: MBR booting new motherboard

Postby Brian K » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:32 pm

> I *may* think of getting an SSD

Consider M.2 NVMe PCIe SSDs. They are faster than Optane memory, especially for writes.

Re GPT disks...

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previo ... 35(v=vs.85)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
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