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Restoring to a dissimilar hardware with osdtool.tbs

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:11 pm
by Vault Dweller
Hi,

I'm going to change MB+CPU in my PC and this means moving my existing XP installation to a new hardware. I'm going to use osdtool.tbs - watched tutorials and have first questions:

1) after removing installed drivers on existing OS - is it necessary to install specific drivers or - after a reboot - windows will go back to standard drivers?
2) I own now Pentium D and my new CPU is Core2 Quad - should I change HAL?

thx
Tom

Re: Restoring to a dissimilar hardware with osdtool.tbs

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:42 am
by Eric
Hello,
1) Yes, after removing all drivers, you have at least to reinstall default IDE drivers (included in osdtool). If your disk is a SATA one, then you also have to install the driver for it. If you change only the MB+CPU, then you may try to "remove all drivers except storage ones".
2) The osdtool can detect the HAL to use, and it will suggest you the HAL to install. If your XP is a x64 one (64-bits version), then you don't have to change it (osdtool will tell).

Be aware that XP is no more supported by Microsoft. It may not work with your new MB and CPU.

Re: Restoring to a dissimilar hardware with osdtool.tbs

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:13 am
by Vault Dweller
Thank you for your response.

Eric wrote:

> Hello,
> 1) Yes, after removing all drivers, you have at least to reinstall default
> IDE drivers (included in osdtool). If your disk is a SATA one, then you
> also have to install the driver for it. If you change only the MB+CPU, then
> you may try to "remove all drivers except storage ones".

Yes, I have SATA HDDs - is the default SATA driver also included in osdtool (or can the script install it using OS files) or I should find this on ASUS site? I assume it's located in chipset driver package?

I assume that, in case of serious problems, I can make a copy of OS located on SATA HDD to IDE HDD, use default IDE driver, boot to XP, install all drivers, and lastly copy OS from IDE to SATA HDD?

> 2) The osdtool can detect the HAL to use, and it will suggest you the HAL
> to install. If your XP is a x64 one (64-bits version), then you don't have
> to change it (osdtool will tell).

OK

> Be aware that XP is no more supported by Microsoft. It may not work with
> your new MB and CPU.

My 'new' MB and CPU is old - just more powerful than my current PC :-D

Re: Restoring to a dissimilar hardware with osdtool.tbs

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:56 am
by Eric
Unfortunately, SATA drivers are not included in osdtool and also not in XP standard (unless it was already installed, like probably in tour case, that's why you may try to remove all drivers but not storage ones).
Even if osdtool has its backup (so you can try an option, and, if it does not work, then restore it and try another option), you should have a full image backup stored somewhere.

I think that, in the BIOS, you can disable SATA and emulate IDE.

Re: Restoring to a dissimilar hardware with osdtool.tbs

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:36 am
by Vault Dweller
That's exactly my plan: 1) setting SATA into IDE mode in MB's BIOS 2) uninstalling all drivers with TB script 3) installing standard IDE driver. I may be wrong but I think important is operating mode of a device (IDE) and not if its interface (SATA/PATA). I'll let you know how it went.

Re: Restoring to a dissimilar hardware with osdtool.tbs

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:58 pm
by Vault Dweller
So it seems I didn't really need TBOSDT as my XP installation kicked off on new hardware without any issues :-D

Re: Restoring to a dissimilar hardware with osdtool.tbs

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:25 pm
by DrTeeth
On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 11:58:10 PST, just as I was about to take a herb,
Vault Dweller disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>So it seems I didn't really need TBOSDT as my XP installation kicked off on new hardware without any issues

I have been saying something similar for years. The *only* thing one
needs to do with XP is to remove any third party disk drivers and
install the standard Microsoft ones. Then, just reboot. People think
one needs to reinstall the OS when changing hardware when that is NOT
true.
--
Cheers,

DrT

"If you want to find out what is wrong
with democracy, spend five minutes with
the average voter." - Winston Churchill

Re: Restoring to a dissimilar hardware with osdtool.tbs

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:51 am
by Vault Dweller
It seems the same goes for Linux Mint 17. I must say it was quite a surprise for me as I remember, few years ago I replaced ATI for NV gfx and disabled gfx mode of Linux distro I had. This time I change everything CPU, MB, GFX and Linux boot up hassle-free. Possible because I had so outdated hardware it ran on generic drivers and upgraded to equally outdated, still much more powerful, hardware :-P

On the other hand Win7 had not boot up until I used OSDTOOL, removed all drivers and installed generic windows IDE/AHCI drivers.