IFL 3.41 Flash Drive

[gatortech]

After downloading and installing the latest version (3.41) of the IFW
suite, I used MakeDisk to create a "bootable" IFL flash drive, only it
will not boot on my Windows 7-32 bit machine.

Same issue after repeating complete process on two different flash
drives, but these drives will boot on a Windows 10-64 bit machine.

I did NOT download and run the UEFI software.

What am I doing wrong?

thanks

AlanD

[DrTeeth]

On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 14:26:17 PST, just as I was about to take a herb,
AlanD disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>What am I doing wrong?

It sounds like the boot order in the BIOS is not in order. Unless you
have an antique, the 64 bit version of IfL will boot on all.

You will either have to get the flash drive in the booting order* for
it to be able to boot or bring up a booting menu during the BIOS
initialisation stage.

*Your flash drive will likely have to be plugged into the PC to be
recognised do it can be added.

Flash drive booting will only work if plugged into a USB socket that
is connected to the motherboard.

Sorry for the vague information, but there are many different BIOSes.
--
Cheers,

DrT

** Amateurs built the Ark, but professionals built the Titanic.**

[CyberSimian]

DrTeeth wrote:
> You will either have to get the flash drive in the booting order* for
> it to be able to boot or bring up a booting menu during the BIOS
> initialisation stage.
> *Your flash drive will likely have to be plugged into the PC to be
> recognised so it can be added.

A word of caution: I have two Lenovo laptops, but they behave differently.

On my 700-15ISK, if the USB memory stick is already plugged in when I power on the system, the memory stick appears in the BIOS list of bootable devices, and I can re-order the devices so that the USB memory stick is first. This order is saved by the BIOS, so that on a subsequent occasion I can plug in the memory stick and boot from it.

On my 500-15ISK, the BIOS shows the USB memory stick, and it can be re-ordered, but the order is NOT remembered by the BIOS (because it is a removable device). Consequently, when I later plug in the memory stick and power on the system, the system boots from the internal disk, not the memory stick.

For the 500-15ISK, it is necessary to use the BIOS Boot Menu in order to boot from a USB memory stick.

-- from CyberSimian in the UK

[gatortech]

On 11/06/20 06:00, DrTeeth wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 14:26:17 PST, just as I was about to take a herb,
> AlanD
>
> disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>
>> What am I doing wrong?
>
> It sounds like the boot order in the BIOS is not in order. Unless you
> have an antique, the 64 bit version of IfL will boot on all.
>
> You will either have to get the flash drive in the booting order* for
> it to be able to boot or bring up a booting menu during the BIOS
> initialisation stage.
>
> *Your flash drive will likely have to be plugged into the PC to be
> recognised do it can be added.
>
> Flash drive booting will only work if plugged into a USB socket that
> is connected to the motherboard.
>
> Sorry for the vague information, but there are many different BIOSes.
>
Yes, and I have to apologize for leaving out of my query the fact that I
had tried all of the available boot options in my 2010 version of a PC
running 32 bit version of Windows 7. Yes, the BIOS is running latest
update available.

I will however, re examine boot options with drive plugged into
different USB port.

Thanks Doc

[gatortech]

On 11/06/20 08:03, CyberSimian wrote:
> DrTeeth wrote:
>> You will either have to get the flash drive in the booting order* for
>> it to be able to boot or bring up a booting menu during the BIOS
>> initialisation stage.
>> *Your flash drive will likely have to be plugged into the PC to be
>> recognised so it can be added.
>
> A word of caution: I have two Lenovo laptops, but they behave differently.
>
> On my 700-15ISK, if the USB memory stick is already plugged in when I power on the system, the memory stick appears in the BIOS list of bootable devices, and I can re-order the devices so that the USB memory stick is first. This order is saved by the BIOS, so that on a subsequent occasion I can plug in the memory stick and boot from it.
>
> On my 500-15ISK, the BIOS shows the USB memory stick, and it can be re-ordered, but the order is NOT remembered by the BIOS (because it is a removable device). Consequently, when I later plug in the memory stick and power on the system, the system boots from the internal disk, not the memory stick.
>
> For the 500-15ISK, it is necessary to use the BIOS Boot Menu in order to boot from a USB memory stick.
>
> -- from CyberSimian in the UK
>
>
Yes, I have dealt with boot options in this "antique" before. I will be
glad when I am done with transferring all of my useful info from it to
my new home-built WIN 10 PC.

I am pretty sure that I had been able to get this PC to boot a flash
drive drive before by making correct choice in boot menu. I'll play
with that some more.

I do know that this BIOS never recognizes a flash drive as such, so I
have to get creative.

I am going to try to try Doc's recommendation that I use a
motherboard-connected USB port.

Quite probably I will have to go back to using a CD to boot.

Thank you for your insight

AlanD

[gatortech]

You were right about only using USB ports directly connected to MB for
UFD boot drives. I was able to boot into IFL by pressing F12 (selecting
drives), then select Hard Drives sub-menu and then selecting the UFD.

Of course, that is just my particular BIOS.

it much faster booting into IFL GUI than using CD.

thanks for the tip


On 11/06/20 06:00, DrTeeth wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 14:26:17 PST, just as I was about to take a herb,
> AlanD
>
> disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>
>> What am I doing wrong?
>
> It sounds like the boot order in the BIOS is not in order. Unless you
> have an antique, the 64 bit version of IfL will boot on all.
>
> You will either have to get the flash drive in the booting order* for
> it to be able to boot or bring up a booting menu during the BIOS
> initialisation stage.
>
> *Your flash drive will likely have to be plugged into the PC to be
> recognised do it can be added.
>
> Flash drive booting will only work if plugged into a USB socket that
> is connected to the motherboard.
>
> Sorry for the vague information, but there are many different BIOSes.
>

[Brian K]

Alan,

I see the same issue with my 32-bit laptop. The 686 IFL download does work on the same laptop.

[Bob Coleman]

DrTeeth wrote:

> Flash drive booting will only work if plugged into a USB socket that
> is connected to the motherboard.

I'm not sure what this means or whether it is intended to just apply to a particular PC and the following is just an anecdote about a particular PC, but ...

I have a cheap USB 2.0 hub plugged into a USB 2 Port on the PC. Into this hub are plugged two cables from my keyboard (well one plugged into the keyboard which splits into two), one to make the keyboard work, the other to make "live" two USB ports on the keyboard. Into one of those is plugged a USB extension cable. IFL flash drive plugged into that cable boots fine.

[DrTeeth]

On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 14:17:40 PST, just as I was about to take a herb,
Bob Coleman disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>I'm not sure what this means or whether it is intended to just apply to a particular PC and the following is just an anecdote about a particular PC, but ...

Hi Bob,
Here, my USB 3.0 hub is not visible to the BIOS so I can only use a
motherboard USB socket.
I had assumed, wrongly as it turns out, that this applied to all
computers.
--
Cheers,

DrT

** Amateurs built the Ark, but professionals built the Titanic.**