Restore to different hardware

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Larrycleve
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Restore to different hardware

Post by Larrycleve »

Can Image for Windows restore to different hardware? I saw the video for this pertaining to Image for Linux. Is Image for Linux the only way it can be done?

On the video he already had the drivers for the new hardware. Do you have to collect these manually and if so how? Can this be done automatically? This will enable Windows 10 to recognize the new hardware and boot? Thanks
DrTeeth
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Re: Restore to different hardware

Post by DrTeeth »

On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 22:43:24 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
Larrycleve disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>Can Image for Windows restore to different hardware? I saw the video for this pertaining to Image for Linux. Is Image for Linux the only way it can be done?

Yes. Image for Windows works in Windows so one has to make an IfL disk
to boot from to restore an OS.

>On the video he already had the drivers for the new hardware. Do you have to collect these manually and if so how? Can this be done automatically? This will enable Windows 10 to recognize the new hardware and boot? Thanks

You do not have to worry about drivers. I have always moved my windows
and Linux OS drive to new hardware without issue. Done this *many*
times. The only OS that causes problems is Win XP, which may need a
driver swap before migrating. It should all be automatic, driver-wise.
--
Cheers,

DrT

** Amateurs built the Ark, but professionals built the Titanic.**
Larrycleve
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Re: Restore to different hardware

Post by Larrycleve »

Appreciate your response. I had been using Shadowprotect for many years but it got too expensive and complex. They abandoned the home user and went to a strictly business oriented model. This is a good alternative.
Brian K
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Re: Restore to different hardware

Post by Brian K »

Larry, I had to do a little more than DrT.

Boot IFL
Restore your image to the Free Space
Stay in IFL. Don't boot Windows. Essential. I found a reboot caused a non-booting OS which can’t be fixed
OSDTool (third icon)
Use your keyboard (up/down keys) to select Physical Drive and press Enter
Select your Windows installation. Press Enter
press Enter on the Confirm screen
select Remove installed drivers and press Enter
select Remove all installed drivers (second choice) and press Enter
select Continue and press Enter
press Enter on the Operation successful screen
select Go back to menu and press Enter
select Exit and press Enter
Reboot
TeraByte Support
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Re: Restore to different hardware

Post by TeraByte Support »

Depending on the Windows version, you may want to clear old drivers and
install standard ide/sata/nvme drivers, if windows has the drivers required,
that's all that is needed. For special controllers like RAID controllers
and such, you get the driver from the drive manufacture they provide for
Windows during installation of Windows, (the f6 drivers), which gives you
the individual pieces (.cat, .inf, .sys files).


"Brian K" wrote in message news:17214@public.image...

Larry, I had to do a little more than DrT.

Boot IFL
Restore your image to the Free Space
Stay in IFL. Don't boot Windows. Essential. I found a reboot caused a
non-booting OS which can't be fixed
OSDTool (third icon)
Use your keyboard (up/down keys) to select Physical Drive and press Enter
Select your Windows installation. Press Enter
press Enter on the Confirm screen
select Remove installed drivers and press Enter
select Remove all installed drivers (second choice) and press Enter
select Continue and press Enter
press Enter on the Operation successful screen
select Go back to menu and press Enter
select Exit and press Enter
Reboot

DrTeeth
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Re: Restore to different hardware

Post by DrTeeth »

On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 18:45:31 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
"TeraByte Support" disturbed my
reverie and wrote:

>Depending on the Windows version, you may want to clear old drivers and
>install standard ide/sata/nvme drivers, if windows has the drivers required,
>that's all that is needed.

This is only mandatory for Win XP. Not doing so will result in a BSOD.
I have never had to go through the process that Brian had. The closest
I have got to a brown-trousers moment was when on particular version
of Windows, many moons ago, had to have LOADS of reboots until the
correct drivers were detected and installed.

I must have swapped hard drives to different hardware well over 10
times without nary a burp.
--
Cheers,

DrT

** Amateurs built the Ark, but professionals built the Titanic.**
TeraByte Support
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Re: Restore to different hardware

Post by TeraByte Support »

not clearing can cause problems on several Windows versions, Win10 is the
version your most likely to away with it.

If it's completely different type of mobo, you should clear, install
standard (and in the cases a special driver is needed, install it).

Not clearing is only needed at some times where it causes an issue if too much cleared.


"DrTeeth" wrote in message news:17220@public.image...

On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 18:45:31 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
"TeraByte Support"

disturbed my
reverie and wrote:

>Depending on the Windows version, you may want to clear old drivers and
>install standard ide/sata/nvme drivers, if windows has the drivers
>required,
>that's all that is needed.

This is only mandatory for Win XP. Not doing so will result in a BSOD.
I have never had to go through the process that Brian had. The closest
I have got to a brown-trousers moment was when on particular version
of Windows, many moons ago, had to have LOADS of reboots until the
correct drivers were detected and installed.

I must have swapped hard drives to different hardware well over 10
times without nary a burp.
--
Cheers,

DrT

** Amateurs built the Ark, but professionals built the Titanic.**
DrTeeth
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Re: Restore to different hardware

Post by DrTeeth »

On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 08:27:26 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
TeraByte Support disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>not clearing can cause problems on several Windows versions, Win10 is the
>version your most likely to away with it.

No probs from Vista up until the latest. I *always* have third party
chipset drivers installed. We are talking over 10 complete hardware
changes here. The XP issue was a *guaranteed* BSOD.
--
Cheers,

DrT

** Amateurs built the Ark, but professionals built the Titanic.**
Gary Seven
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Location: Tarragona, Spain

Re: Restore to different hardware

Post by Gary Seven »

I'm a little confused by both the posts from Terabyte and Dr. Teeth.

I have to replace my motherboard NOW as my SATA controller seems to be failing and is producing ever increasing quantities of I/O erros. I have Win7 installed on one SSD (along with BIBM) and two different Linux distros installed on two additional SSD's.

Will I be able to restore copies of my SSD's once I have installed my new motherboard? In fact, once installed, can I just reconnect my SSD's and boot into them (Windows 7, Linux, etc.) without even doing a restore (using the same SSD's here, just different mobo, CPU, and RAM)?

Or do I have to install the freakin OS's from scratch so they can "pick up" the drivers from the new mobo? Quite confused here.

Edit: My old system was built in 2011 and of course is legacy BIOS. Any new mobo I buy will come with UEFI, but can I still use "legacy bios" mode and install like that?

G7
CyberSimian
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Re: Restore to different hardware

Post by CyberSimian »

Gary Seven wrote:
> I have Win7 installed on one SSD (along with BIBM) and two different Linux distros
> installed on two additional SSD's.

Use BIBM to image all of your disks first, and then connect them to your new motherboard and try to boot. It may work. However...

Be aware that motherboards with Z370 and Z390 chipsets do not support Windows 7. If you try to run the Intel Driver Update Tool to update the drivers, it will (I think) refuse to update any drivers. Similarly if you try to run Microsoft Windows Update.

Whether the new motherboard would work with the old drivers depends on how compatible the old and new motherboard chipsets are. For example, the USB sockets on the new motherboard will probably require drivers that do not exist in your Windows 7 system. Similarly for other devices on the motherboard.

I installed Windows 7 on a laptop with a Skylake processor (equivalent to a Z170 or Z270 motherboard chipset). The install worked because I installed from the built-in SATA-connected DVD drive, and Windows 7 has SATA drivers. But on completion of the install, many motherboard devices did not work, because there were no drivers for them. In fact, it was impossible to communicate with the laptop because none of the following worked: USB2 sockets, USB3 sockets, ethernet adapter, wi-fi adapter, bluetooth adapter, memory card reader. To install the drivers, I had to write them to a CD and install them from the built-in DVD drive (a USB-connected DVD drive would not have worked, of course).

-- from CyberSimian in the UK
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