Some time ago, some of us noticed that PHYLock got a lock within
seconds. I have noticed a slide in this behaviour. My IfW waiting
until bang on the 10 minutes time out before it gets a lock on the
drive. Surely that is too much of a coincidence that disk writing
stops at EXACTLY the same time, each time.
Has anybody noticed anything similar or can offer any suggestions?
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PHYLock lock time
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Bob Coleman
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Re: PHYLock lock time
Probably of no help, but:
I have the timeout set to 60 minutes though the lock is normally obtained within a minute. Recently, I noticed that the lock was never being obtained within the 60 minutes. I never did figure out why, but I discovered that if during the 60 minutes I unplugged the ethernet cable creating no network access, the lock would be obtained within a short time. I could then plug the cable back in and everything would proceed normally. I continued this procedure for several days after which the lock started being obtained rapidly again with out disconnecting from the network.
I have no idea what was happening during the period when the lock seemingly would not be obtained if there was internet access.
I have the timeout set to 60 minutes though the lock is normally obtained within a minute. Recently, I noticed that the lock was never being obtained within the 60 minutes. I never did figure out why, but I discovered that if during the 60 minutes I unplugged the ethernet cable creating no network access, the lock would be obtained within a short time. I could then plug the cable back in and everything would proceed normally. I continued this procedure for several days after which the lock started being obtained rapidly again with out disconnecting from the network.
I have no idea what was happening during the period when the lock seemingly would not be obtained if there was internet access.
Re: PHYLock lock time
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 15:54:39 EDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
Bob Coleman disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>I have no idea what was happening during the period when the lock seemingly would not be obtained if there was internet access.
I'll give that a try later. Strange the sudden change in behaviour and
starting to image bang on 10 mins. When running a backup I make sure
that there is no disk activity, no windows defrags going on, so I too
am puzzled about what could be using the disk. The disk LED hardly
ever comes on during that 10 mins either.
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Cheers,
DrT
"If you want to find out what is wrong
with democracy, spend five minutes with
the average voter". - Winston Churchill
Bob Coleman disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>I have no idea what was happening during the period when the lock seemingly would not be obtained if there was internet access.
I'll give that a try later. Strange the sudden change in behaviour and
starting to image bang on 10 mins. When running a backup I make sure
that there is no disk activity, no windows defrags going on, so I too
am puzzled about what could be using the disk. The disk LED hardly
ever comes on during that 10 mins either.
--
Cheers,
DrT
"If you want to find out what is wrong
with democracy, spend five minutes with
the average voter". - Winston Churchill
Re: PHYLock lock time
DrT,
PHYLock waits for a 4.25 second pause in disk activity before locking. If by 10 minutes there hasn't been this delay then PHYLock locks anyway. I wouldn't like that.
Have a look in Procmon.exe (Sysinternals) to see what is interrupting imagew.exe in that 4.25 second period.
PHYLock waits for a 4.25 second pause in disk activity before locking. If by 10 minutes there hasn't been this delay then PHYLock locks anyway. I wouldn't like that.
Have a look in Procmon.exe (Sysinternals) to see what is interrupting imagew.exe in that 4.25 second period.
Re: PHYLock lock time
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 21:32:08 EDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
Brian K disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>DrT,
>
>PHYLock waits for a 4.25 second pause in disk activity before locking. If by 10 minutes there hasn't been this delay then PHYLock locks anyway. I wouldn't like that.
>
>Have a look in Procmon.exe (Sysinternals) to see what is interrupting imagew.exe in that 4.25 second period.
Hi Brian,
We're onto something. It's 03:00hrs here local time so head not clear
enough for that sort of trouble-shooting. managed to get a quick lock
after closing various things down. Tomorrow, once I have picked up an
old and working American valve tester I have bought, I'll get on the
case. Thanks for the heads up about that useful utility. Daft
question...how do disk reads appear in the listing?
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Cheers,
DrT
"If you want to find out what is wrong
with democracy, spend five minutes with
the average voter". - Winston Churchill
Brian K disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>DrT,
>
>PHYLock waits for a 4.25 second pause in disk activity before locking. If by 10 minutes there hasn't been this delay then PHYLock locks anyway. I wouldn't like that.
>
>Have a look in Procmon.exe (Sysinternals) to see what is interrupting imagew.exe in that 4.25 second period.
Hi Brian,
We're onto something. It's 03:00hrs here local time so head not clear
enough for that sort of trouble-shooting. managed to get a quick lock
after closing various things down. Tomorrow, once I have picked up an
old and working American valve tester I have bought, I'll get on the
case. Thanks for the heads up about that useful utility. Daft
question...how do disk reads appear in the listing?
--
Cheers,
DrT
"If you want to find out what is wrong
with democracy, spend five minutes with
the average voter". - Winston Churchill
Re: PHYLock lock time
DrT,
In Promon press Ctrl+A to get Auto Scroll. In the Process Name column you will see imagew.exe appear occasionally but not last 4.25 seconds. What is the process that interrupts imagew.exe. You can press CTRL+A to freeze the scrolling.
In Promon press Ctrl+A to get Auto Scroll. In the Process Name column you will see imagew.exe appear occasionally but not last 4.25 seconds. What is the process that interrupts imagew.exe. You can press CTRL+A to freeze the scrolling.
Re: PHYLock lock time
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 22:56:19 EDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
Brian K disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>In Promon press Ctrl+A to get Auto Scroll. In the Process Name column you will see imagew.exe appear occasionally but not last 4.25 seconds. What is the process that interrupts imagew.exe. You can press CTRL+A to freeze the scrolling.
Hi Brian,
I think I may have nailed it. Procmon did not show anything
consistently stopping IfW from starting. As the issue was relatively
recent, I worked my way backwards from the newest program/update. Then
when I thought I had found it, I went blank and could remember the
last thing I disabled! 2½ months until I get my free bus pass and tube
(London Underground) pass.
--
Cheers,
DrT
"If you want to find out what is wrong
with democracy, spend five minutes with
the average voter". - Winston Churchill
Brian K disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>In Promon press Ctrl+A to get Auto Scroll. In the Process Name column you will see imagew.exe appear occasionally but not last 4.25 seconds. What is the process that interrupts imagew.exe. You can press CTRL+A to freeze the scrolling.
Hi Brian,
I think I may have nailed it. Procmon did not show anything
consistently stopping IfW from starting. As the issue was relatively
recent, I worked my way backwards from the newest program/update. Then
when I thought I had found it, I went blank and could remember the
last thing I disabled! 2½ months until I get my free bus pass and tube
(London Underground) pass.
--
Cheers,
DrT
"If you want to find out what is wrong
with democracy, spend five minutes with
the average voter". - Winston Churchill
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TeraByte Support
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Re: PHYLock lock time
fwiw, it's only the disk writes that matter. diskmon will show at a lower
level if can't find it at higher one.
"DrTeeth" wrote in message news:15446@public.image...
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 21:32:08 EDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
Brian K disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>DrT,
>
>PHYLock waits for a 4.25 second pause in disk activity before locking. If
>by 10 minutes there hasn't been this delay then PHYLock locks anyway. I
>wouldn't like that.
>
>Have a look in Procmon.exe (Sysinternals) to see what is interrupting
>imagew.exe in that 4.25 second period.
Hi Brian,
We're onto something. It's 03:00hrs here local time so head not clear
enough for that sort of trouble-shooting. managed to get a quick lock
after closing various things down. Tomorrow, once I have picked up an
old and working American valve tester I have bought, I'll get on the
case. Thanks for the heads up about that useful utility. Daft
question...how do disk reads appear in the listing?
--
Cheers,
DrT
"If you want to find out what is wrong
with democracy, spend five minutes with
the average voter". - Winston Churchill
level if can't find it at higher one.
"DrTeeth" wrote in message news:15446@public.image...
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 21:32:08 EDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
Brian K disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>DrT,
>
>PHYLock waits for a 4.25 second pause in disk activity before locking. If
>by 10 minutes there hasn't been this delay then PHYLock locks anyway. I
>wouldn't like that.
>
>Have a look in Procmon.exe (Sysinternals) to see what is interrupting
>imagew.exe in that 4.25 second period.
Hi Brian,
We're onto something. It's 03:00hrs here local time so head not clear
enough for that sort of trouble-shooting. managed to get a quick lock
after closing various things down. Tomorrow, once I have picked up an
old and working American valve tester I have bought, I'll get on the
case. Thanks for the heads up about that useful utility. Daft
question...how do disk reads appear in the listing?
--
Cheers,
DrT
"If you want to find out what is wrong
with democracy, spend five minutes with
the average voter". - Winston Churchill
Re: PHYLock lock time
On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 23:44:51 EDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
"TeraByte Support" disturbed my
reverie and wrote:
>fwiw, it's only the disk writes that matter. diskmon will show at a lower
>level if can't find it at higher one.
I could not tell what was a disk write and what was not. The culprit
was a running service for my keyboard. As this was not needed, I
uninstalled the software.
--
Cheers,
DrT
"If you want to find out what is wrong
with democracy, spend five minutes with
the average voter". - Winston Churchill
"TeraByte Support" disturbed my
reverie and wrote:
>fwiw, it's only the disk writes that matter. diskmon will show at a lower
>level if can't find it at higher one.
I could not tell what was a disk write and what was not. The culprit
was a running service for my keyboard. As this was not needed, I
uninstalled the software.
--
Cheers,
DrT
"If you want to find out what is wrong
with democracy, spend five minutes with
the average voter". - Winston Churchill
Re: PHYLock lock time
Try Procmon filter: PATH BEGINS WITH C:\
or whatever drive letter that Phyloc is stuck on.
remove all other filters.
this will show you what processes are touching the disk.
Have fun,
or whatever drive letter that Phyloc is stuck on.
remove all other filters.
this will show you what processes are touching the disk.
Have fun,