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byte-for-byte validation errors during restore

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:31 am
by Orochi
Basically whenever I restore an image, I get byte-for-byte validation errors during restore process.
I tested memory and hard drives and did not find any errors.
Things I've tried.
I tried backing up live system with phylock and vss.
Tried backing up system drive outside of windows.
Tried changing location of the image.
Image is validated and looks good, but during restore I get those errors.
What is weird, is that if I run restore again, same image and same disk, I will not get validation errors.
Any ideas?

Re: byte-for-byte validation errors during restore

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:23 am
by TeraByte Support
If you're using RAID, run a consistency check (may say something like
validate/fix).



"Orochi" wrote in message news:14547@public.image...

Basically whenever I restore an image, I get byte-for-byte validation errors
during restore process.
I tested memory and hard drives and did not find any errors.
Things I've tried.
I tried backing up live system with phylock and vss.
Tried backing up system drive outside of windows.
Tried changing location of the image.
Image is validated and looks good, but during restore I get those errors.
What is weird, is that if I run restore again, same image and same disk, I
will not get validation errors.
Any ideas?


Re: byte-for-byte validation errors during restore

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:01 am
by Orochi
Thank you for your reply.
No, not using RAID. I have the most basic configuration.

Re: byte-for-byte validation errors during restore

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:20 pm
by TeraByte Support
you could change out the cable too. You can enable /logl:10 or 50 or 100
for more details on which sector was changed and its value differences.
you'd want to provide the full log.



"Orochi" wrote in message news:14549@public.image...

Thank you for your reply.
No, not using RAID. I have the most basic configuration.


Re: byte-for-byte validation errors during restore

PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:44 am
by Orochi
I doubt it's the cable. Lets just say if it was the cable, I would have issues left an right.
Here is the log. As you can see. The second pass does not produce validation errors.
Can you reproduce this ?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
[12/22/2017 6:17:27 PM] Image for Windows 3.15
[12/22/2017 6:17:27 PM] Starting ...
imagew.exe /d:w0@0x2 /f:"E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-22-1010" /sig /v /vb /rft /ubi /ubp
[12/22/2017 6:17:29 PM] Validating: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 6:17:29 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-22-1010.TBI
[12/22/2017 6:19:33 PM] Restoring: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 6:19:33 PM] To: Drive 0 (C:) MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 6:19:33 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-22-1010.TBI
[12/22/2017 6:25:01 PM] Validating: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 6:25:01 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-22-1010.TBI
[12/22/2017 6:25:01 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1083584 offset 384 (49536)
[12/22/2017 6:25:01 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1083585 offset 0 (49664)
[12/22/2017 6:25:01 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1083586 offset 0 (50176)
[12/22/2017 6:25:01 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1083587 offset 0 (50688)
[12/22/2017 6:25:01 PM] Byte-for-Byte comparison failed.
Do not abort if you want to ignore these errors.

Do you want to abort the operation?
[12/22/2017 6:45:57 PM] Time Elapsed: 0:00:28:30
[12/22/2017 6:45:57 PM] Operation Completed with Error Code 0
[12/22/2017 6:45:57 PM] The restore completed with 0 bad sector(s) and 4 byte-for-byte error(s) encountered.
[12/22/2017 6:45:57 PM] Stop
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
[12/22/2017 6:47:31 PM] Image for Windows 3.15
[12/22/2017 6:47:31 PM] Starting ...
imagew.exe /d:w0@0x2 /f:"E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020" /sig /v /vb /rft /ubi /ubp
[12/22/2017 6:47:31 PM] Validating: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 6:47:31 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020.TBI
[12/22/2017 6:49:00 PM] Restoring: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 6:49:00 PM] To: Drive 0 (C:) MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 6:49:00 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020.TBI
[12/22/2017 6:53:21 PM] Validating: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 6:53:21 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020.TBI
[12/22/2017 6:56:46 PM] Time Elapsed: 0:00:09:15
[12/22/2017 6:56:46 PM] Operation Completed with Error Code 0
[12/22/2017 6:56:46 PM] Stop
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
[12/22/2017 9:51:15 PM] Image for Windows 3.15
[12/22/2017 9:51:15 PM] Starting ...
imagew.exe /d:w0@0x2 /f:"E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020" /sig /v /vb /rft /ubi /ubp
[12/22/2017 9:51:15 PM] Validating: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 9:51:15 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020.TBI
[12/22/2017 9:52:45 PM] Restoring: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 9:52:45 PM] To: Drive 0 (C:) MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 9:52:45 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020.TBI
[12/22/2017 9:57:05 PM] Validating: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 9:57:05 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020.TBI
[12/22/2017 9:57:05 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1026063 offset 49 (7729)
[12/22/2017 9:57:05 PM] Byte-for-Byte comparison failed.
Do not abort if you want to ignore these errors.

Do you want to abort the operation?
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034784 offset 0 (16384)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034785 offset 0 (16896)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034786 offset 0 (17408)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034787 offset 0 (17920)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034788 offset 0 (18432)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034789 offset 0 (18944)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034790 offset 0 (19456)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034791 offset 0 (19968)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034792 offset 0 (20480)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034793 offset 0 (20992)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034794 offset 8 (21512)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034795 offset 0 (22016)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034796 offset 0 (22528)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034797 offset 1 (23041)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034798 offset 0 (23552)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034799 offset 0 (24064)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034800 offset 0 (24576)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034801 offset 8 (25096)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034802 offset 0 (25600)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034803 offset 0 (26112)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034804 offset 0 (26624)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034805 offset 1 (27137)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034806 offset 0 (27648)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034807 offset 0 (28160)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034808 offset 0 (28672)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034809 offset 0 (29184)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034810 offset 8 (29704)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034811 offset 0 (30208)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034812 offset 1 (30721)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034813 offset 0 (31232)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034814 offset 1 (31745)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034815 offset 1 (32257)
[12/22/2017 10:00:37 PM] Time Elapsed: 0:00:09:22
[12/22/2017 10:00:37 PM] Operation Completed with Error Code 0
[12/22/2017 10:00:37 PM] The restore completed with 0 bad sector(s) and 33 byte-for-byte error(s) encountered.
[12/22/2017 10:00:37 PM] Stop
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
[12/22/2017 10:03:30 PM] Image for Windows 3.15
[12/22/2017 10:03:30 PM] Starting ...
imagew.exe /r /d:w0@0x2 /f:"E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020" /sig /vb /rft /ubi /ubp
[12/22/2017 10:03:31 PM] Restoring: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 10:03:31 PM] To: Drive 0 (C:) MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 10:03:31 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020.TBI
[12/22/2017 10:07:51 PM] Validating: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 10:07:51 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020.TBI
[12/22/2017 10:11:17 PM] Time Elapsed: 0:00:07:47
[12/22/2017 10:11:17 PM] Operation Completed with Error Code 0
[12/22/2017 10:11:17 PM] Stop

Re: byte-for-byte validation errors during restore

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:28 am
by TeraByte Support
Run a higher log level to see what the data is. You can also get findlbaf
utility via ftp://www.terabyteunlimited.com/findlbaf.zip after looking in
the log, run it on one of the LBA's (from an elevated prompt). That will
tell you what is being changed.

Also, you should ensure the setting (general tab) "Delete Restore
Destination" is still enabled.


"Orochi" wrote in message news:14551@public.image...

I doubt it's the cable. Lets just say if it was the cable, I would have
issues left an right.
Here is the log. As you can see. The second pass does not produce validation
errors.
Can you reproduce this ?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
[12/22/2017 6:17:27 PM] Image for Windows 3.15
[12/22/2017 6:17:27 PM] Starting ...
imagew.exe /d:w0@0x2 /f:"E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-22-1010" /sig /v /vb
/rft /ubi /ubp
[12/22/2017 6:17:29 PM] Validating: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 6:17:29 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-22-1010.TBI
[12/22/2017 6:19:33 PM] Restoring: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 6:19:33 PM] To: Drive 0 (C:) MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 6:19:33 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-22-1010.TBI
[12/22/2017 6:25:01 PM] Validating: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 6:25:01 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-22-1010.TBI
[12/22/2017 6:25:01 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1083584 offset 384
(49536)
[12/22/2017 6:25:01 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1083585 offset 0
(49664)
[12/22/2017 6:25:01 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1083586 offset 0
(50176)
[12/22/2017 6:25:01 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1083587 offset 0
(50688)
[12/22/2017 6:25:01 PM] Byte-for-Byte comparison failed.
Do not abort if you want to ignore these errors.

Do you want to abort the operation?
[12/22/2017 6:45:57 PM] Time Elapsed: 0:00:28:30
[12/22/2017 6:45:57 PM] Operation Completed with Error Code 0
[12/22/2017 6:45:57 PM] The restore completed with 0 bad sector(s) and 4
byte-for-byte error(s) encountered.
[12/22/2017 6:45:57 PM] Stop
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
[12/22/2017 6:47:31 PM] Image for Windows 3.15
[12/22/2017 6:47:31 PM] Starting ...
imagew.exe /d:w0@0x2 /f:"E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020" /sig /v /vb
/rft /ubi /ubp
[12/22/2017 6:47:31 PM] Validating: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 6:47:31 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020.TBI
[12/22/2017 6:49:00 PM] Restoring: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 6:49:00 PM] To: Drive 0 (C:) MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 6:49:00 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020.TBI
[12/22/2017 6:53:21 PM] Validating: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 6:53:21 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020.TBI
[12/22/2017 6:56:46 PM] Time Elapsed: 0:00:09:15
[12/22/2017 6:56:46 PM] Operation Completed with Error Code 0
[12/22/2017 6:56:46 PM] Stop
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
[12/22/2017 9:51:15 PM] Image for Windows 3.15
[12/22/2017 9:51:15 PM] Starting ...
imagew.exe /d:w0@0x2 /f:"E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020" /sig /v /vb
/rft /ubi /ubp
[12/22/2017 9:51:15 PM] Validating: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 9:51:15 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020.TBI
[12/22/2017 9:52:45 PM] Restoring: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 9:52:45 PM] To: Drive 0 (C:) MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 9:52:45 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020.TBI
[12/22/2017 9:57:05 PM] Validating: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 9:57:05 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020.TBI
[12/22/2017 9:57:05 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1026063 offset 49
(7729)
[12/22/2017 9:57:05 PM] Byte-for-Byte comparison failed.
Do not abort if you want to ignore these errors.

Do you want to abort the operation?
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034784 offset 0
(16384)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034785 offset 0
(16896)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034786 offset 0
(17408)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034787 offset 0
(17920)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034788 offset 0
(18432)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034789 offset 0
(18944)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034790 offset 0
(19456)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034791 offset 0
(19968)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034792 offset 0
(20480)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034793 offset 0
(20992)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034794 offset 8
(21512)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034795 offset 0
(22016)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034796 offset 0
(22528)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034797 offset 1
(23041)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034798 offset 0
(23552)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034799 offset 0
(24064)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034800 offset 0
(24576)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034801 offset 8
(25096)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034802 offset 0
(25600)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034803 offset 0
(26112)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034804 offset 0
(26624)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034805 offset 1
(27137)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034806 offset 0
(27648)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034807 offset 0
(28160)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034808 offset 0
(28672)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034809 offset 0
(29184)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034810 offset 8
(29704)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034811 offset 0
(30208)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034812 offset 1
(30721)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034813 offset 0
(31232)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034814 offset 1
(31745)
[12/22/2017 9:57:12 PM] Byte-for-Byte failure at LBA 1034815 offset 1
(32257)
[12/22/2017 10:00:37 PM] Time Elapsed: 0:00:09:22
[12/22/2017 10:00:37 PM] Operation Completed with Error Code 0
[12/22/2017 10:00:37 PM] The restore completed with 0 bad sector(s) and 33
byte-for-byte error(s) encountered.
[12/22/2017 10:00:37 PM] Stop
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
[12/22/2017 10:03:30 PM] Image for Windows 3.15
[12/22/2017 10:03:30 PM] Starting ...
imagew.exe /r /d:w0@0x2 /f:"E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020" /sig /vb
/rft /ubi /ubp
[12/22/2017 10:03:31 PM] Restoring: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 10:03:31 PM] To: Drive 0 (C:) MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB
NTFS
[12/22/2017 10:03:31 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020.TBI
[12/22/2017 10:07:51 PM] Validating: MBR 1 Partition (02) 99608 MiB NTFS
[12/22/2017 10:07:51 PM] From: E:\IFW\Backup-w0-0x2-2017-12-21-2020.TBI
[12/22/2017 10:11:17 PM] Time Elapsed: 0:00:07:47
[12/22/2017 10:11:17 PM] Operation Completed with Error Code 0
[12/22/2017 10:11:17 PM] Stop


Re: byte-for-byte validation errors during restore

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:55 am
by Orochi
Thanks for your help.
How do you set log level to /logl:10 or 50 or 100?
In the settings, there is an option to enable log level, but no option to set the detail level of the log.

PS. I ended up reinstalling windows 10 yesterday.
Made a backup of a system partition. Then did a restore and did not get any validation errors.
Also, used the option to delete restore destination. Maybe this option helped.
However, few times in the past, I was able to do a restore without getting validation errors.
I will update this post if the problem comes back.

Another question. When we chose automatic restore, does the program still apply user restore settings?

Re: byte-for-byte validation errors during restore

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:22 pm
by Bob Coleman
Orochi wrote:
> How do you set log level to /logl:10 or 50 or 100?

One way is to add LogLevel=nn to IFW.INI under [Options]. /logl:nn can be added to the command if IFW is being run from a command line, batch file, script or whatever. I don't know how to set the log level from the GUI.

Re: byte-for-byte validation errors during restore

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:56 pm
by Orochi
Bob Coleman wrote:
> Orochi wrote:
> > How do you set log level to /logl:10 or 50 or 100?
>
> One way is to add LogLevel=nn to IFW.INI under [Options]. /logl:nn can be added to
> the command if IFW is being run from a command line, batch file, script or whatever.
> I don't know how to set the log level from the GUI.

Thanks for guiding me in the right direction. The help file lists only levels 1 to 10. What do levels 50 or 100 do?

Re: byte-for-byte validation errors during restore

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:44 pm
by Bob Coleman
Orochi wrote:
> The help file lists only levels 1 to 10. What do levels 50 or 100 do?

I don't know. I'm wondering if 10 or anything greater might produce the same results, but I really don't know.