Brian K wrote:
> Bruce, I'm using a home built desktop. Gigabyte B360M MB.
>
> I restored the image to free space. The original partition was 14000 MB and
> I restored the image to 50000 MB of free space at the end of the SSD and
> resized to 13000 MB on the last screen. For what it's worth I chose Update
> Boot Partition.
hmmm. ok. yes that's different to what I am doing. I can understand an image being capable of restored to a larger amount of free space, then shrunk.
My SSD is chockablock. It's a Lenovo Yoga 720 250GB ssd.... with
win10, Data, Mint 28GB, LinuxExperimental1 14GB, Experimental2 14GB, Swap, Lenovo Restore.
Suppose I could reduce Mint from 28GB to 14GB.
That's another benefit of Linux - the smaller OS footprints cf Win10.
hmmmm... I don't understand "Update Boot Partition". Is that an image restore option? Is this a BootIt UEFI option? or something else?
Day 1 BootIt UEFI install to dual boot Win10 & Mint 19.1
Re: Day 1 BootIt UEFI install to dual boot Win10 & Mint 19.1
ok.....YAY again.
Alright, regarding image restore operations,
when I select the image I want to restore, BIU doesn't give an option to put it anywhere other than its original location with partition number.
It also gives the warning that everything at that partition address will be overwritten....do you want to proceed?
If I choose NO, it then goes back to the destination selection process, and I can then choose alternative free space.
Glad that's sorted. It's not the most intuitive process though.
Anyway, tonight I've been quickly able to downsize all Linux OS partitions, and restore them onto the SSD.
And I can not boot successfully to all 4 Linux, and 1 win10.
So I am a happy camper.
I can now mess with Linux a lot easier.
The thing is though I cannot create BIU boot menu items for each of the Linux OSs.
BIU passes me to GRUB, and I select 1 of 4 Linux OSs there.
Alright, regarding image restore operations,
when I select the image I want to restore, BIU doesn't give an option to put it anywhere other than its original location with partition number.
It also gives the warning that everything at that partition address will be overwritten....do you want to proceed?
If I choose NO, it then goes back to the destination selection process, and I can then choose alternative free space.
Glad that's sorted. It's not the most intuitive process though.
Anyway, tonight I've been quickly able to downsize all Linux OS partitions, and restore them onto the SSD.
And I can not boot successfully to all 4 Linux, and 1 win10.
So I am a happy camper.
I can now mess with Linux a lot easier.
The thing is though I cannot create BIU boot menu items for each of the Linux OSs.
BIU passes me to GRUB, and I select 1 of 4 Linux OSs there.
Re: Day 1 BootIt UEFI install to dual boot Win10 & Mint 19.1
brucebne wrote:
>
> The thing is though I cannot create BIU boot menu items for each of the
> Linux OSs.
> BIU passes me to GRUB, and I select 1 of 4 Linux OSs there.
If you wait for the timeout (or press Enter) does the correct OS boot?
>
> The thing is though I cannot create BIU boot menu items for each of the
> Linux OSs.
> BIU passes me to GRUB, and I select 1 of 4 Linux OSs there.
If you wait for the timeout (or press Enter) does the correct OS boot?
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CyberSimian
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Re: Day 1 BootIt UEFI install to dual boot Win10 & Mint 19.1
DrTeeth wrote:
> If my PC would allow me to boot my MBR OS drive, I would have a
> separate GPT boot drive to play with.
My Lenovo 700-15ISK laptop has two settings for the BIOS boot mode: "UEFI", and "Legacy Support":
(1) "UEFI" means that the system boots only in UEFI mode, and the "Secure Boot" setting is honoured.
(2) "Legacy Support" means that the system boots in UEFI or MBR mode, according to the disk being booted:
(a) If the disk has a GPT partition table, the system boots in UEFI mode, and the "Secure Boot" setting is honoured.
(b) If the disk has an MBR partition table, the system boots in MBR mode, and the "Secure Boot" setting is ignored.
My 700-15ISK has a 128GB M.2 NVMe SSD with a GPT running the original Windows 10 pre-load, plus a 2TB 2.5inch SATA SSD with an EMBR running Windows 7 and an updated Windows 10 (and, in the future, Linux). I have BIBM installed on the SATA SSD which is the disk that usually boots. BIBM can boot any of the operating systems on the SATA SSD (EMBR), but cannot boot Windows 10 on the NVMe SSD (GPT). However, the BIOS has a separate "Boot Menu" that allows me to select the NVMe SSD and boot in UEFI mode. This "Boot Menu" is different from the BIOS panel where the boot-device priority is specified.
If your motherboard BIOS provides similar capabilities, you could have one disk as GPT, and the remainder as EMBR.
-- from CyberSimian in the UK
> If my PC would allow me to boot my MBR OS drive, I would have a
> separate GPT boot drive to play with.
My Lenovo 700-15ISK laptop has two settings for the BIOS boot mode: "UEFI", and "Legacy Support":
(1) "UEFI" means that the system boots only in UEFI mode, and the "Secure Boot" setting is honoured.
(2) "Legacy Support" means that the system boots in UEFI or MBR mode, according to the disk being booted:
(a) If the disk has a GPT partition table, the system boots in UEFI mode, and the "Secure Boot" setting is honoured.
(b) If the disk has an MBR partition table, the system boots in MBR mode, and the "Secure Boot" setting is ignored.
My 700-15ISK has a 128GB M.2 NVMe SSD with a GPT running the original Windows 10 pre-load, plus a 2TB 2.5inch SATA SSD with an EMBR running Windows 7 and an updated Windows 10 (and, in the future, Linux). I have BIBM installed on the SATA SSD which is the disk that usually boots. BIBM can boot any of the operating systems on the SATA SSD (EMBR), but cannot boot Windows 10 on the NVMe SSD (GPT). However, the BIOS has a separate "Boot Menu" that allows me to select the NVMe SSD and boot in UEFI mode. This "Boot Menu" is different from the BIOS panel where the boot-device priority is specified.
If your motherboard BIOS provides similar capabilities, you could have one disk as GPT, and the remainder as EMBR.
-- from CyberSimian in the UK
Re: Day 1 BootIt UEFI install to dual boot Win10 & Mint 19.1
Brian K wrote:
> brucebne wrote:
>
> >
> > The thing is though I cannot create BIU boot menu items for each of the
> > Linux OSs.
> > BIU passes me to GRUB, and I select 1 of 4 Linux OSs there.
>
> If you wait for the timeout (or press Enter) does the correct OS boot?
On ESP, there's now only one Linux folder with a grubx64.efi loader
Previously on ESP, there has been more than one Linux folder with a grub boot loader, but they didn't seem to do anything differently.
I understand if you run multiple LInux OSs you should only update grub from one OS.
I haven't worked out how to clear dysfunctional OS folders on ESP, or reinstall them.
> brucebne wrote:
>
> >
> > The thing is though I cannot create BIU boot menu items for each of the
> > Linux OSs.
> > BIU passes me to GRUB, and I select 1 of 4 Linux OSs there.
>
> If you wait for the timeout (or press Enter) does the correct OS boot?
On ESP, there's now only one Linux folder with a grubx64.efi loader
Previously on ESP, there has been more than one Linux folder with a grub boot loader, but they didn't seem to do anything differently.
I understand if you run multiple LInux OSs you should only update grub from one OS.
I haven't worked out how to clear dysfunctional OS folders on ESP, or reinstall them.
Re: Day 1 BootIt UEFI install to dual boot Win10 & Mint 19.1
CyberSimian wrote:
> DrTeeth wrote:
> > If my PC would allow me to boot my MBR OS drive, I would have a
> > separate GPT boot drive to play with.
>
> My Lenovo 700-15ISK laptop has two settings for the BIOS boot mode: "UEFI",
> and "Legacy Support":
>
> (1) "UEFI" means that the system boots only in UEFI mode, and the
> "Secure Boot" setting is honoured.
>
> (2) "Legacy Support" means that the system boots in UEFI or MBR mode,
> according to the disk being booted:
>
> (a) If the disk has a GPT partition table, the system boots in UEFI mode, and the
> "Secure Boot" setting is honoured.
>
> (b) If the disk has an MBR partition table, the system boots in MBR mode, and the
> "Secure Boot" setting is ignored.
>
> My 700-15ISK has a 128GB M.2 NVMe SSD with a GPT running the original Windows 10
> pre-load, plus a 2TB 2.5inch SATA SSD with an EMBR running Windows 7 and an updated
> Windows 10 (and, in the future, Linux). I have BIBM installed on the SATA SSD which
> is the disk that usually boots. BIBM can boot any of the operating systems on the
> SATA SSD (EMBR), but cannot boot Windows 10 on the NVMe SSD (GPT). However, the BIOS
> has a separate "Boot Menu" that allows me to select the NVMe SSD and boot
> in UEFI mode. This "Boot Menu" is different from the BIOS panel where the
> boot-device priority is specified.
>
> If your motherboard BIOS provides similar capabilities, you could have one disk as
> GPT, and the remainder as EMBR.
>
> -- from CyberSimian in the UK
Thanks Cyber. I haven't looked into a 2nd SSD.
I am quite well versed with BIBM and EMBR.
However, GPT is a different story. I don't think BootIt UEFI has the same functionality or documentation as BIBM by a long shot.
> DrTeeth wrote:
> > If my PC would allow me to boot my MBR OS drive, I would have a
> > separate GPT boot drive to play with.
>
> My Lenovo 700-15ISK laptop has two settings for the BIOS boot mode: "UEFI",
> and "Legacy Support":
>
> (1) "UEFI" means that the system boots only in UEFI mode, and the
> "Secure Boot" setting is honoured.
>
> (2) "Legacy Support" means that the system boots in UEFI or MBR mode,
> according to the disk being booted:
>
> (a) If the disk has a GPT partition table, the system boots in UEFI mode, and the
> "Secure Boot" setting is honoured.
>
> (b) If the disk has an MBR partition table, the system boots in MBR mode, and the
> "Secure Boot" setting is ignored.
>
> My 700-15ISK has a 128GB M.2 NVMe SSD with a GPT running the original Windows 10
> pre-load, plus a 2TB 2.5inch SATA SSD with an EMBR running Windows 7 and an updated
> Windows 10 (and, in the future, Linux). I have BIBM installed on the SATA SSD which
> is the disk that usually boots. BIBM can boot any of the operating systems on the
> SATA SSD (EMBR), but cannot boot Windows 10 on the NVMe SSD (GPT). However, the BIOS
> has a separate "Boot Menu" that allows me to select the NVMe SSD and boot
> in UEFI mode. This "Boot Menu" is different from the BIOS panel where the
> boot-device priority is specified.
>
> If your motherboard BIOS provides similar capabilities, you could have one disk as
> GPT, and the remainder as EMBR.
>
> -- from CyberSimian in the UK
Thanks Cyber. I haven't looked into a 2nd SSD.
I am quite well versed with BIBM and EMBR.
However, GPT is a different story. I don't think BootIt UEFI has the same functionality or documentation as BIBM by a long shot.
Re: Day 1 BootIt UEFI install to dual boot Win10 & Mint 19.1
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 03:15:15 PST, just as I was about to take a herb,
CyberSimian disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>If your motherboard BIOS provides similar capabilities, you could have one disk as GPT, and the remainder as EMBR.
>-- from CyberSimian in the UK
I have been told by Gigabyte that I have to boot in UEFI mode to use
an m.2 drive as a boot drive. I was looking into getting an NVMe one.
I am not sure if that applies to a SATA m.2 drive, but that is a moot
point as they are no faster than any other SATA drive.
I opened a support ticket after reading something here that that was
the case as nothing was mentioned in the motherboard (Z390 Aorus
Elite) manual.
Also in the UK...North London
--
Cheers,
DrT
** Amateurs built the Ark, but professionals built the Titanic.**
CyberSimian disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>If your motherboard BIOS provides similar capabilities, you could have one disk as GPT, and the remainder as EMBR.
>-- from CyberSimian in the UK
I have been told by Gigabyte that I have to boot in UEFI mode to use
an m.2 drive as a boot drive. I was looking into getting an NVMe one.
I am not sure if that applies to a SATA m.2 drive, but that is a moot
point as they are no faster than any other SATA drive.
I opened a support ticket after reading something here that that was
the case as nothing was mentioned in the motherboard (Z390 Aorus
Elite) manual.
Also in the UK...North London
--
Cheers,
DrT
** Amateurs built the Ark, but professionals built the Titanic.**
Re: Day 1 BootIt UEFI install to dual boot Win10 & Mint 19.1
brucebne wrote:
>
> On ESP, there's now only one Linux folder with a grubx64.efi loader
>
> Previously on ESP, there has been more than one Linux folder with a grub boot loader,
> but they didn't seem to do anything differently.
Bruce, I have 4 Linux OS and 4 ubuntu.xxx folders in the ESP. I've had other Linux OS (no longer needed) and when I delete their partition I also delete the redundant ubuntu.xxx. I'm not sure how you finished up with only one ubuntu.xxx folder but you didn't install your Linux OS to the drive sequentially, as I did.
When I click a Linux Boot Item in the BIU Boot Menu the OS loads. No further menu selection is needed.
With Microsoft OS you can restore an old image to free space on the drive, manually create a Microsoft.xxx folder and boot the OS. I don't know how to do this with a Linux OS.
>
> On ESP, there's now only one Linux folder with a grubx64.efi loader
>
> Previously on ESP, there has been more than one Linux folder with a grub boot loader,
> but they didn't seem to do anything differently.
Bruce, I have 4 Linux OS and 4 ubuntu.xxx folders in the ESP. I've had other Linux OS (no longer needed) and when I delete their partition I also delete the redundant ubuntu.xxx. I'm not sure how you finished up with only one ubuntu.xxx folder but you didn't install your Linux OS to the drive sequentially, as I did.
When I click a Linux Boot Item in the BIU Boot Menu the OS loads. No further menu selection is needed.
With Microsoft OS you can restore an old image to free space on the drive, manually create a Microsoft.xxx folder and boot the OS. I don't know how to do this with a Linux OS.
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Re: Day 1 BootIt UEFI install to dual boot Win10 & Mint 19.1
brucebne wrote:
> hmmmm. when I try to restore a Linux image to a smaller area, I get a message saying
> not enough space, even though the data is much smaller than the target partition
> area.
> And there's no option to restore it to a different partition to its original.
>
Something that occurred to me without really understanding most of this, but are you, by any chance, using Simple Operations?
> hmmmm. when I try to restore a Linux image to a smaller area, I get a message saying
> not enough space, even though the data is much smaller than the target partition
> area.
> And there's no option to restore it to a different partition to its original.
>
Something that occurred to me without really understanding most of this, but are you, by any chance, using Simple Operations?
Re: Day 1 BootIt UEFI install to dual boot Win10 & Mint 19.1
brucebne wrote:
> I understand if you run multiple LInux OSs you should only update grub from one OS.
>
Let's say I download and install Linux updates in Mint 19.1 and one of the updates is grub. Grub is only updated in the Linux 19.1 ubuntu.xxx folder. My other three ubuntu.xxx folders don't have an updated grub.
> I understand if you run multiple LInux OSs you should only update grub from one OS.
>
Let's say I download and install Linux updates in Mint 19.1 and one of the updates is grub. Grub is only updated in the Linux 19.1 ubuntu.xxx folder. My other three ubuntu.xxx folders don't have an updated grub.