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Re: Can't boot to bootable BIBM USB stick

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:36 am
by davewilk
TeraByte Support wrote:
> change from non-partitioned to partitioned and ensure booting in legacy
> mode. Windows will use a partition and will boot in UEFI mode.

I think I have tried all the methods of preparing the USB stick.

This is an older computer (Athlon II). No UEFI.

Re: Can't boot to bootable BIBM USB stick

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:01 am
by davewilk
Brian K wrote:
> Dave,
>
> What is the error message when Windows won't boot? I understand the Win10
> UFD doesn't boot Windows, just the Install environment.
>
> Can you restore an image?

1. If I start the machine with just the SSD, the machine boots to the recovery environment, but says:

Your PC/Device needs to be repaired
The operating system couldn't be loaded because the system registry file is missing or contains errors
File: \windows\system32\config\system
Error code 0xc0000225
You'll need to use recovery tools...

2. If I start with the Windows installation USB stick connected, when I try "Startup Repair" it says:

Startup repair couldn't repair your PC

At least, this is the current situation after trying various command line "fixes" that I found on the internet.

Speaking of command line, one problem I am having is the bootrec /fixboot is giving me "Access is denied".

I don't have an image.

I think I'm just going to reinstall. The install I have is quite new, so it's no big deal.

Re: Can't boot to bootable BIBM USB stick

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:11 am
by davewilk
Bob Coleman wrote:
> DrTeeth wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 15:58:20 EDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
> > Bob Coleman disturbed my reverie and wrote:
> >
> > >Wasn't the original problem that a BIBM USB stick won't boot? Is any of
> > this relevant to that?
> >
> > That was not his original problem. He said his original Win 10 won't
> > boot, but it *will* with Win 10 on a USB stick.
> >
> > His BIBM will not boot with the SSD connected. I think that this *may*
> > be a red herring. He was trying to use BIBM to diagnose what Win 10
> > would not boot. It would not be my tool of choice.
> > --
> > Cheers,
> >
> > DrT
> >
> You are right. I missed that there are two different problems.

Yes, my original problem was that my installed Windows 10 will not boot (actually, it boots to the recovery environment, but not to Windows itself). But this problem has nothing to do with BIBM.

Perhaps BIBM is not the best diagnostic tool, but I should be able to boot to it. That is what I am asking about here.

I think I am just going to reinstall Windows. No big deal.

Re: Can't boot to bootable BIBM USB stick

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:14 pm
by Brian K
davewilk wrote:

> File: \windows\system32\config\system
> Error code 0xc0000225

Dave,

That's likely to be a BCD error. Can you boot IFL and do a BCD Edit from PartWork?

Re: Can't boot to bootable BIBM USB stick

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:50 pm
by davewilk
Brian K wrote:
> Dave,
>
> That's likely to be a BCD error. Can you boot IFL and do a BCD Edit from PartWork?

Yes, That's what I thought. I tried all the "Microsoft" BCD fixes I could find, which did change the symptoms slightly (to those above), but no dice.

Yesterday I threw in the towel and reinstalled. Gave me a chance to use Chocolatey, which I only learned about recently. It allows you to set a machine up really quickly -- highly recommended.

So my original problem is fixed, but I still can't boot to a BIBM USB stick.

Re: Can't boot to bootable BIBM USB stick

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:13 am
by DrTeeth
On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 21:50:05 EDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
davewilk disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>So my original problem is fixed, but I still can't boot to a BIBM USB stick.

Can you use the same USB stick to boot anything?

If the USB stick has been formatted UEFI it won't boot under legacy
BIOS and vice-versa.
--
Cheers,

DrT

"If you want to find out what is wrong
with democracy, spend five minutes with
the average voter". - Winston Churchill

Re: Can't boot to bootable BIBM USB stick

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:23 am
by davewilk
DrTeeth wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 21:50:05 EDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
> Can you use the same USB stick to boot anything?
>
> If the USB stick has been formatted UEFI it won't boot under legacy
> BIOS and vice-versa.
I can boot Windows 10 installation on an identical disk (Kingston 8GB). I have also tried BIBM with a different stick (actually an SD card in an adapter) without success.

Where is the option to format UEFI in Makedisk? Both the computer I use to prepare the USB and the one I want to use it on are older non-UEFI computers.

Re: Can't boot to bootable BIBM USB stick

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:32 am
by DrTeeth
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:23:14 EDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
davewilk disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>Where is the option to format UEFI in Makedisk? Both the computer I use to prepare the USB and the one I want to use it on are older non-UEFI computers.

I did not know how you were making the USB drives. I use Rufus to make
and format all my flash drives and usually only create ISOs.

Makedisk is only MBR AFAIK.

Good luck in sorting out your problem. Sorry I could not be of more
help.
--
Cheers,

DrT

"If you want to find out what is wrong
with democracy, spend five minutes with
the average voter". - Winston Churchill

Re: Can't boot to bootable BIBM USB stick

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:06 pm
by Bob Coleman
DrTeeth wrote:

> Makedisk is only MBR AFAIK.
>
That's not completely true. The latest MAKEDISK downloaded as part of the latest BootIt Collection can make boot media for either BIBM or BIU.