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Installing Solaris 11.1

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:35 am
by eldiener
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic but I have a few questions about installing Solaris 11.1 and using BIBM:

1) Does anyone know if the Solarus 11.1 x86 install overwrites the MBR ?
2) Does anyone know if Solaris 11.1 will still boot if it overwrites the MBR and I have BIBM restore itself from CD to the MBR ?

I know there is a FAQ about Solaris and BootIt but that is for a much earlier version of Solaris and am wondering if it is still true for Solaris 11.1. I asked about Solaris on the Oracle forums but never got a reply.

Re: Installing Solaris 11.1

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:56 pm
by DrTeeth
Why not set up a virtual machine and do an install and see what
options you get during the install? VirtualBox is free and from Oracle
too.
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Re: Installing Solaris 11.1

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:47 am
by eldiener
DrTeeth wrote:
> Why not set up a virtual machine and do an install and see what
> options you get during the install? VirtualBox is free and from Oracle
> too.

I can run the install and no doubt recover from it if it overwrites the MBR by just booting from my BIBM CD and reactivating BIBM. I was merely interested if anyone knows if Solaris would boot afterward from the partition I install it in. I admit I have never used a virtual machine product under Windows and Linux and am therefore pretty distrusful of their capabilities.

Re: Installing Solaris 11.1

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:17 am
by TeraByte Support
I haven't used that version - you can save the mbr (and embr) using the
"copy sectors" feature of "scripting" in BIBM. Copy 63 sectors from LBA
0.

"eldiener" wrote in message news:5060@public.bootitbm...

Sorry if this is a bit off-topic but I have a few questions about installing
Solaris 11.1 and using BIBM:

1) Does anyone know if the Solarus 11.1 x86 install overwrites the MBR ?
2) Does anyone know if Solaris 11.1 will still boot if it overwrites the MBR
and I have BIBM restore itself from CD to the MBR ?

I know there is a FAQ about Solaris and BootIt but that is for a much
earlier version of Solaris and am wondering if it is still true for Solaris
11.1. I asked about Solaris on the Oracle forums but never got a reply.


Re: Installing Solaris 11.1

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:23 am
by DrTeeth
eldiener wrote:
>I admit I
> have never used a virtual machine product under Windows and Linux and am therefore
> pretty distrusful of their capabilities.

???????
If you have never used Solaris before, are you 'distrustful of it' :D ? Do you apply 'never used it so don't trust it' to everything in your life :D ?

Take a chance or two.

Re: Installing Solaris 11.1

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:46 am
by eldiener
TeraByte Support wrote:
> I haven't used that version - you can save the mbr (and embr) using the
> "copy sectors" feature of "scripting" in BIBM. Copy 63 sectors from LBA
>
> 0.

Does not the Reactivate BIBM restore the MBR if Solaris overwrites it so that BIBM is once again my boot manager ?

>
> "eldiener" wrote in message news:5060@public.bootitbm...
>
> Sorry if this is a bit off-topic but I have a few questions about
> installing
> Solaris 11.1 and using BIBM:
>
> 1) Does anyone know if the Solarus 11.1 x86 install overwrites the MBR ?
> 2) Does anyone know if Solaris 11.1 will still boot if it overwrites the
> MBR
> and I have BIBM restore itself from CD to the MBR ?
>
> I know there is a FAQ about Solaris and BootIt but that is for a much
> earlier version of Solaris and am wondering if it is still true for Solaris
>
> 11.1. I asked about Solaris on the Oracle forums but never got a reply.

Re: Installing Solaris 11.1

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:53 am
by eldiener
DrTeeth wrote:
> eldiener wrote:
> >I admit I
> > have never used a virtual machine product under Windows and Linux and am
> therefore
> > pretty distrusful of their capabilities.
>
> ???????
> If you have never used Solaris before, are you 'distrustful of it' :D ? Do you apply
> 'never used it so don't trust it' to everything in your life :D ?

Running a virtual machine under Windows installs it in the Windows partition ( I assume ). Installing Solaris installs it in its own partition I assume. Therefore I am more distrustful of the software messing up in the former case than in the latter case. Yes, I have all my partitions backed up to external hard drives but still I dislike messing myself up with software for which ordinarily I have little use. Running a virtual machine on my computer, even if it works adequately, seems hard enough given the fact that OSs themselves have enough problems with hardware. In the present case I just wanted to check if anyone else using BIBM has installed Solaris 11.1 and knows if it works well with BIBM or presents any problems as part of its installation.

>
> Take a chance or two.

Scary <g>.

Re: Installing Solaris 11.1

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:11 am
by TeraByte Support
Sure, if that's all it did. However If it altered other things in the first
track then it probably be nice to have a backup somewhere just in case.
(always make sure you have control over where the OS will be installed so it
doesn't just overwrite everything).

"eldiener" wrote in message news:5074@public.bootitbm...

TeraByte Support wrote:
> I haven't used that version - you can save the mbr (and embr) using the
> "copy sectors" feature of "scripting" in BIBM. Copy 63 sectors from
> LBA
>
> 0.

Does not the Reactivate BIBM restore the MBR if Solaris overwrites it so
that BIBM is once again my boot manager ?



Re: Installing Solaris 11.1

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:00 am
by DrTeeth
eldiener wrote:

> Running a virtual machine under Windows installs it in the Windows partition ( I
> assume ). Installing Solaris installs it in its own partition I assume. Therefore I
> am more distrustful of the software messing up in the former case than in the latter
> case.

You are so wrong in your assumptions. Nothing messes up anything except operator error (been there loads of times myself). Do yourself a favour and read the Virtualbox manual and see what you are missing - SAFE experimenting on a massive scale :D .

DrT

Re: Installing Solaris 11.1

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:19 am
by eldiener
TeraByte Support wrote:
> Sure, if that's all it did. However If it altered other things in the
> first
> track then it probably be nice to have a backup somewhere just in case.
> (always make sure you have control over where the OS will be installed so
> it
> doesn't just overwrite everything).

Is there a FAQ on how to copy and restore sectors with BIBM ? I did not see anything in the documentation on how to do this. I agree that I do want a backup of the mbr and embr so that I can restore them if necessary.

>
> "eldiener" wrote in message news:5074@public.bootitbm...
>
> TeraByte Support wrote:
> > I haven't used that version - you can save the mbr (and embr) using the
> > "copy sectors" feature of "scripting" in BIBM. Copy 63 sectors from
> > LBA
> >
> > 0.
>
> Does not the Reactivate BIBM restore the MBR if Solaris overwrites it so
> that BIBM is once again my boot manager ?