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Re: Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby David40 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:22 am

Thanks for the replies, this raises a couple of questions.

"Double check your boot item and ensure you don't have bios sequence or next
bios device checked."

** Are you refering to the Boot Details or One Time Option? In the manual it instructs to choose one of those options in the One Time Option?

"ensure the order of the partitions match the
boot.ini in the partition."

** I found the Edit Files in the Work With Partitions area but in the XP partition all it shows is a directory named System Volume Information with a Tracking Log, no Boot.ini file.

A Side Note - Wish you guys at Support would do a new tutorial that demonstrates adding a new OS to an existing Win 7 configuration. The video you refered me to is for installing XP as the first OS, I'm sure adding an OS to Win 7 is far more common these days and a bit more complex. I get the impression here that I am the first person to attempt this because there doesn't seem to be a clear and organized path to getting this accomplished.
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Re: Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby DrTeeth » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:31 am

David40 wrote:
> Is it very difficult to remove and then move back these items to the MBR
> after the XP install is finished?

No. It's the easiest part of the whole business :D .
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Re: Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby DrTeeth » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:36 am

> "ensure the order of the partitions match the
> boot.ini in the partition."
>
> ** How do I find/view/edit the boot.ini files since the XP OS is not yet
> installed?

You cannot. If boot.ini says the xp partition is in position two, but in the MBR is is position 1 it will not boot. I rearrance the MBR to match the boot.ini rather than editing the file.

> A Side Note - Wish you guys at Support would do a new tutorial that
> demonstrates adding a new OS to an existing Win 7 configuration. The video
> you refered me to is for installing XP as the first OS, I'm sure adding an
> OS to Win 7 is far more common these days and a bit more complex. I get the
> impression here that I am the first person to attempt this because there
> doesn't seem to be a clear and organized path to getting this accomplished.

There is noting special about what you are trying to do and the video covers all the basics. The steps I outlined earlier I do for the installs of ALL OSs.
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Re: Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby DrTeeth » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:39 am

Bob Coleman wrote:

> I think you should have said "... you can do this if you *have NOT* limited
> primary partitions". (Your next sentence does seem to imply this).

It has been so long since I limited primaries, so was not 110% the MBR could be edited if primaries were limited.
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Re: Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby David40 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:11 am

Maybe I have a bad slipstream install disc. I'm getting a different install disc from a guy in about an hour. I'll let you know if that makes any difference. At this point should I delete the XP Partition and start from scratch?
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Re: Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby DrTeeth » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:09 am

David40 wrote:
> At this point should I delete the XP Partition and start from scratch?

Yes, definitely. To save time during the install, select the quick format option. Good luck.
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Re: Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby David40 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:55 am

Yes, the video covers steps but the results in real life are completely different than the video. When I do the steps in the video I get completely different results in real life on my computer. For example when I get to the part where I'm supposed to select Boot... in the video a dialog asks if "you want to boot to drive A?", for me that question never appears, it goes right to a black screen telling me to insert a boot disc in drive A which does not exist on this machine. So here I am stuck at a point that is not covered in either the video or the manual. So what do I do now, start over again and try something different????? It's clear to me that the video is completely useless and following the steps in the manual did not get me any results either. I really do not know what to do now. This is very frustrating. :( I think the company needs to create a new set of videos and and new manual that match, and have clear outlines or flow charts of the steps needed.
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Re: Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby DrTeeth » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:32 am

On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 07:55:30 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
David40 disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>Yes, the video covers steps but the results in real life are completely different than the video.

Could you please let me know exactly which video you are watching? I
am more than happy to look at it and tell you which bits are
outdated/misleading.

If you follow my workflow earlier in the thread, you should install
with success.

>I think the company needs to create a new set of videos and and new manual that match, and have clear outlines or flow charts of the steps needed.

I have said something similar to TBU in the past. I am not happy with
the style of the documentation as it is clearly written by somebody
who knows the software inside out; but it *needs* to be proof read by
somebody who does not. The docs have many areas that say something
like "tick box to enable feature 'x' and clear the box to disable it"
without actually explaining what 'x' does - drives me nuts.
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Re: Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby TeraByte Support » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:39 am

If your NTFS partition is preformatted you get the new message, which you
treat just like the other one says is not booted, if you want the same basic
message to show up, don't format the NTFS partition when you create it. In
either case, after booting the boot item you press ctl-alt-del to start
booting the XP installation media. Then choose the existing partition you
created for it (should be marked C:). Like mentioned before, if you have
multiple drives, keep an eye on what XP thinks the various drive numbers
are.


"David40" wrote in message news:2711@public.bootitbm...

Yes, the video covers steps but the results in real life are completely
different than the video. When I do the steps in the video I get completely
different results in real life on my computer. For example when I get to the
part where I'm supposed to select Boot... in the video a dialog asks if "you
want to boot to drive A?", for me that question never appears, it goes right
to a black screen telling me to insert a boot disc in drive A which does not
exist on this machine. So here I am stuck at a point that is not covered in
either the video or the manual. So what do I do now, start over again and
try something different????? It's clear to me that the video is completely
useless and following the steps in the manual did not get me any results
either. I really do not know what to do now. This is very frustrating.

![:(]({SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_sad.gif)

I think the company needs to create a new set of videos and and new manual
that match, and have clear outlines or flow charts of the steps needed.

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Re: Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby a1pcfixer » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:00 pm

DrTeeth,

> I am not happy with
> the style of the documentation as it is clearly written by somebody
> who knows the software inside out; but it *needs* to be proof read by
> somebody who does not. The docs have many areas that say something
> like "tick box to enable feature 'x' and clear the box to disable it"
> without actually explaining what 'x' does - drives me nuts.

Well said!

Might very well shoot TB sales skyward if a more user friendly approach
to documentation were implimented.
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