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Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby David40 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:12 am

I went through the seps to create a new partition to install XP. I get all the way through the install process where it says "Windows is now starting", and then get the dreaded blue screen telling me the my computer has been protected from damage. (I can still boot to the exiting Win 7 partition) If I try to run bootit again Bootit asks if I want to upgrade/install Bootit. It's as though the Bootit installation got corrupted somehow.
Any ideas how I should proceed? :?
Thanks
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Re: Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby TeraByte Support » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:50 am

If it wasn't installed it would come up and say welcome to setup, if it
wasn't active (normal) you'd just choose to reactivate. If you boot and
don't have reactivate then it's still installed and when you boot it would
boot to BootIt first before the OS. During installation it would be normal
for it to become deactivated and you reactivate when done. If it's not,
Either the installer was installing something to another drive it thinks is
the boot drive, or something's not right with the driver or RAID.
Ensure you follow the steps at http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/howto/ for
installing XP and ensure you have the correct driver (you should see your
existing partition in the installer on the first drive, you may want to
remove other drives if XP is mixing them up).



"David40" wrote in message news:2683@public.bootitbm...

I went through the seps to create a new partition to install XP. I get all
the way through the install process where it says "Windows is now starting",
and then get the dreaded blue screen telling me the my computer has been
protected from damage. (I can still boot to the exiting Win 7 partition) If
I try to run bootit again Bootit asks if I want to upgrade/install Bootit.
It's as though the Bootit installation got corrupted somehow.
Any ideas how I should proceed?

![:?]({SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_confused.gif)

Thanks

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Re: Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby David40 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:32 pm

Woah, I think you lost me there. I am at the point now where the Boot menu comes up on every boot. If I pick XP I get the option to boot from the CD which always starts the install process but fails. If I select XP from the Boot Menu but NOT select the CD I end up at a black screen with a blinking cursor. (I watched the tutorial and I assume it's a bit different than what I see because that was done with Bootit NG.) I did get the impression that XP demands that the install drive be "C"? I already have Win 7 installed to "C". (Is it possible to have a drive "C" in each partition?) If it is true that XP requires drive "C" then what can I do since WIN 7 is already set up using C?
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Re: Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby DrTeeth » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:10 pm

On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 13:32:43 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
David40 disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>Woah, I think you lost me there. I am at the point now where the Boot menu comes up on every boot.

I will start the process from scratch and you can pick up where you
left off. For more detailed instructions, I need to know whether you
have limited primary partitions or not.

You may have to refer to the manual if some parts here are not clear
or just ask again.

At the boot menu, click on the middle 'maintenance button. Click on
partition work on the left and a window 'work with partitions' opens.
If no unallocated space is present, you need to shrink some partitions
to create unallocated space in which to create your Win XP partition -
name it XP or something else meaningful pertaining to the OS.

Close that screen and click on the boot edit icon and a 'boot menu'
screen opens. Click the add button and an add menu item screen opens.
This is where you create an item that will show up in the boot menu.

During a windows install, the install programs can install files or
rather CONTAMINATE other partitions and it is important, very
important, that the windows install can only 'see' the partition into
which you wish to install XP. I remove (not hide) all other partitions
when doing a windows install from the MBR details - IIRC you can do
this if you *have* limited primary partitions. If you have limited
them, all the entries are populated, if you have NOT, you have to pick
what to add.

Exit out of that until you get to the screen with the 'resume' icon in
the top left, click it. You will get to your original boot menu.
Select the XP item and try to boot it. The boot will fail...it
partition is empty. Now reboot the PC as instructed on the screen and
make sure that the PC boots from the CD. It should find your XP
partition and install normally. During the reboots, do NOT boot from
the CD, the hard disc will access it for any files it needs and do NOT
be alarmed of your BIBM menu has disappeared - IIRC it disappears
during a windows install and just has to be reinstalled/reactivated
when XP is installed.

I *hope* that the above guides you down the path of success. Please
backup before you start. I have become complacent in the past and
pressed a key and found I have FUBARed the disc contents - I backup
often now so am safe.

Feel free to ask further, and do NOT forget to backup...and not to the
hard disc to which you are installing.
--

Cheers

DrT
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Re: Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby David40 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:50 pm

Thank you very much for responding. Yes, I did limit partitions. Yes, I have been backing up to an external USB HD at every step so I can at least get back to a point I know everything works.

This part confuses me in a couple of places:

"During a windows install, the install programs can install files or
rather CONTAMINATE other partitions and it is important, very
important, that the windows install can only 'see' the partition into
which you wish to install XP. I remove (not hide) all other partitions
when doing a windows install from the MBR details"

*** If I remove all other partitions doesn't that mean I am in effect wiping out the existing Windows 7 partition meaning I would need to competely reinstall Win 7?

"- IIRC you can do this if you *have* limited primary partitions. If you have limited
them, all the entries are populated, if you have NOT, you have to pick
what to add."

*** What is "IIRC"?
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Re: Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby Bob Coleman » Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:59 pm

DrTeeth wrote:
> I remove (not hide) all other partitions
> when doing a windows install from the MBR details - IIRC you can do
> this if you *have* limited primary partitions. If you have limited
> them, all the entries are populated, if you have NOT, you have to pick
> what to add.
>

I think you should have said "... you can do this if you *have NOT* limited primary partitions". (Your next sentence does seem to imply this).
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Re: Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby Bob Coleman » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:02 pm

David40 wrote:
> Thank you very much for responding. Yes, I did limit partitions. Yes, I
> have been backing up to an external USB HD at every step so I can at least
> get back to a point I know everything works.
>
> This part confuses me in a couple of places:
>
> "During a windows install, the install programs can install files or
> rather CONTAMINATE other partitions and it is important, very
> important, that the windows install can only 'see' the partition into
> which you wish to install XP. I remove (not hide) all other partitions
> when doing a windows install from the MBR details"
>
> *** If I remove all other partitions doesn't that mean I am in effect
> wiping out the existing Windows 7 partition meaning I would need to
> competely reinstall Win 7?
>
> "- IIRC you can do this if you *have* limited primary partitions. If
> you have limited
> them, all the entries are populated, if you have NOT, you have to pick
> what to add."
>
> *** What is "IIRC"?

He doesn't mean to actually remove, that is delete, the partitions. He means to remove them from the MBR in the boot item that you create for XP so that the XP installation process can't "see" said partitions, but I do think this implies having primary partitions not limited.

IIRC: If I Remember Correctly (I think).
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Re: Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby David40 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:37 pm

Is it very difficult to remove and then move back these items to the MBR after the XP install is finished?
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Re: Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby TeraByte Support » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:21 pm

Double check your boot item and ensure you don't have bios sequence or next
bios device checked. Also, ensure the order of the partitions match the
boot.ini in the partition. For that whole discussion, watch the second half
of the making a copy of XP video at http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/howto/


"David40" wrote in message news:2688@public.bootitbm...

Woah, I think you lost me there. I am at the point now where the Boot menu
comes up on every boot. If I pick XP I get the option to boot from the CD
which always starts the install process but fails. If I select XP from the
Boot Menu but NOT select the CD I end up at a black screen with a blinking
cursor. (I watched the tutorial and I assume it's a bit different than what
I see because that was done with Bootit NG.) I did get the impression that
XP demands that the install drive be "C"? I already have Win 7 installed to
"C". (Is it possible to have a drive "C" in each partition?) If it is true
that XP requires drive "C" then what can I do since WIN 7 is already set up
using C?

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Re: Can't install OS to New Partition

Postby TeraByte Support » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:22 pm

.... and also view properties of the partition in partition work and if it
asks to fix the bpb, choose yes.

"TeraByte Support" wrote in message news:2700@public.bootitbm...

Double check your boot item and ensure you don't have bios sequence or next
bios device checked. Also, ensure the order of the partitions match the
boot.ini in the partition. For that whole discussion, watch the second half
of the making a copy of XP video at http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/howto/


"David40" wrote in message news:2688@public.bootitbm...

Woah, I think you lost me there. I am at the point now where the Boot menu
comes up on every boot. If I pick XP I get the option to boot from the CD
which always starts the install process but fails. If I select XP from the
Boot Menu but NOT select the CD I end up at a black screen with a blinking
cursor. (I watched the tutorial and I assume it's a bit different than what
I see because that was done with Bootit NG.) I did get the impression that
XP demands that the install drive be "C"? I already have Win 7 installed to
"C". (Is it possible to have a drive "C" in each partition?) If it is true
that XP requires drive "C" then what can I do since WIN 7 is already set up
using C?

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