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Re: BING and USB

Postby a1pcfixer » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:51 pm

DrTeeth,

> "My previous Asus MB had problems with my USB mouse, a
> recent (and short-lived) Gigabyte motherboard also did and my current
> Asus 'board does not. It's a real mess out there".

THAT much is true!

From the following link TB supplied.......

Http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463435#EKC

.........Note: Some BIOS vendors support only a USB keyboard
and not a USB mouse.

MS-DOS, DR-DOS, and others, never were intended for USB mouse support,
only keyboard. Mouse support from Mac to Windows has always focused on
support from within the relative OS.

I like you, would welcome stable USB mouse support in TB BIBM/IFD etc.,
But unfortunately it's not gonna happen. For us, USB mouse support is
relagated to IFW and TBiView.

I suppose we ought to count our blessings and be happy nobody's
complaining about USB keyboard issues.
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Re: BING and USB

Postby a1pcfixer » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:51 pm

AlanD,

> Every single one had either one or two PS/2 ports on their new MB's.

Unless you have a netbook/laptop......ooops?

They're still available, but like seriel ports of the past, PS/2 ports
are on the way out, like floppy drives. Just a matter of time.

Have ya tried recently to find a PS/2 style mouse &/or keyboard at say
a local Best Buy? None in stock, but sometimes available online.

USB2/USB3, Thunderbolt, HDMI, SATA/eSATA are the 'now' tech of today
and into the near future.
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Re: BING and USB

Postby a1pcfixer » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:13 pm

TeraByte,

> They ought to just open source the BIOSes to the point others could
> fix it and they could control the merge/build.

For those brave enough to try a re-programmed BIOS chip, there is this
site.....if your desperate enough....

http://www.flashbios.org/

If anyone were to try that service above, I'd strongly recommend you
also get & use the following.....

IOSS BIOS RD-1 backup system
http://www.ioss.com.tw/web/English/RD1BIOSSavior.html

Downright handy item to have, espeially when a BIOS update goes bad.
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Re: BING and USB

Postby AlanD » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:01 pm

On 2012-02-07 6:13 PM, a1pcfixer wrote:
> TeraByte,
>
>> They ought to just open source the BIOSes to the point others could
>> fix it and they could control the merge/build.
>
> For those brave enough to try a re-programmed BIOS chip, there is this
> site.....if your desperate enough....
>
> http://www.flashbios.org/
>
> If anyone were to try that service above, I'd strongly recommend you
> also get& use the following.....
>
> IOSS BIOS RD-1 backup system
> http://www.ioss.com.tw/web/English/RD1BIOSSavior.html
>
> Downright handy item to have, espeially when a BIOS update goes bad
One reason I like my GB board - two BIOS chips

AlanD

Sorry I didn't consider laptops and their ilk earlier when I was
pointing out that PS/2 ain't dead yet (at least not in PC MB's). I just
NEVER think about laptops - maybe someday in the distant future when
they learn how to make real batteries.

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Re: BING and USB

Postby a1pcfixer » Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:06 pm

AlanD,

> > IOSS BIOS RD-1 backup system
> > http://www.ioss.com.tw/web/English/RD1BIOSSavior.html
> >
> > Downright handy item to have, espeially when a BIOS update goes bad
> One reason I like my GB board - two BIOS chips

Cheater!
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Re: BING and USB

Postby TeraByte Support » Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:17 pm

The touchpads and buttons tend to work ok on laptops/notebooks/netbooks as
the BIOS supports them properly.

"AlanD" wrote in message news:1353@public.bootitng...

Sorry I didn't consider laptops and their ilk earlier when I was
pointing out that PS/2 ain't dead yet (at least not in PC MB's). I just
NEVER think about laptops - maybe someday in the distant future when
they learn how to make real batteries.

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Re: BING and USB

Postby HighSierra » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:15 am

Jim,
Excellent post. Especially the keyboard navigation tips.

I only have issue with one part as follows:
"True, but as I pointed out, TB 'legacy' apps just aren't at the top of the food
chain for BIOS'. Keyboard navigation of the BIOS settings, then passing off
support of USB to within the OS is their primary concerns. '

This particular MB has a UEFI BIOS with full USB mouse support in the BIOS. Something happens after BIOS that messes up the Legacy USB mouse support, although it's now only that uncontrollable movement of the pointer that is at issue.
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Re: BING and USB

Postby mjnelson99 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:55 am

It is most likely driver problems that causes the
uncontrollable movement of the curser.

I have found I can easily use the keyboard in IFL/IFD. I
don't use BING for imaging.
Mary


On 2/8/2012 8:15 AM, HighSierra wrote:
> Jim,
> Excellent post. Especially the keyboard navigation tips.
>
> I only have issue with one part as follows:
> "True, but as I pointed out, TB 'legacy' apps just aren't at the top of the food
> chain for BIOS'. [b:30qw663z]Keyboard navigation of the BIOS settings,[/b:30qw663z] then passing off
> support of USB to within the OS is their primary concerns. '
>
> This particular MB has a UEFI BIOS with full USB mouse support in the BIOS. Something happens after BIOS that messes up the Legacy USB mouse support, although it's now only that uncontrollable movement of the pointer that is at issue.
>
>
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Re: BING and USB

Postby HighSierra » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:13 am

In that case ASUS has solved their problem with the BIOS update.
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Re: BING and USB

Postby a1pcfixer » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:55 am

HighSierra,

> Something happens after BIOS that messes up the Legacy USB mouse support,
> although it's now only that uncontrollable movement of the pointer that is at issue.

Disn't Asus tell ya....."A floating mouse pointer is a software or mouse issue and not a motherboard issue"

> In that case ASUS has solved their problem with the BIOS update.

Must be an echo in here. LOL

Also, by your own admission of FULL USB mouse support in your BIOS (and Asus' statements),
such clearly indicates Asus has USB mouse support in their BIOS done correctly. Now it's either your
mouse or TB' issue.....or both.
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