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Re: Win8 Upgrade

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:28 am
by DrTeeth
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:48:47 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
Brian K disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>DrT,
>
>I assume you did a Custom clean install into a partition using the BIBM method?
>
Yes indeedee.

>How does the upgrade disk confirm you already have a genuine Windows OS? Does it "see" the partition?

No. The upgrade wizard in run in a qualifying OS. I ran min under Win
7 on the target PC (I cannot tell if the upgrade is locked to a given
OS or can be used after an upgrade or not [OEM vs Retail licence]).
One downloads the OS and one gets the option to create an ISO, use it
to burn a disk and install clean. Easy.
--

Cheers

DrT
______________________________
We may not be able to prevent the stormy times in
our lives; but we can always choose whether or not
to dance in the puddles (Jewish proverb).

Re: Win8 Upgrade

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:19 pm
by DrTeeth
Well, having played around a bit with it and got it to (almost) bend
to my will; I'm unimpressed. There is NOTHING in Win 8 that makes it a
necessary or desirable upgrade.

Many things that could be changed in Win 7, Vista etc just cannot be
now. Yes, those are the first things I like to configure on a new
Windows install.

If I got Win 8 on a new PC, I'd install Win 7 as my main OS.

Makes me wonder what they were doing all the time.

Oh, and I noticed a minor bug that has surfaced that is common on
Vista. When one empties the recycle bin, the window does not show the
emptied state...it still shows the contents and must be manually
refreshed.
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Cheers

DrT
______________________________
We may not be able to prevent the stormy times in
our lives; but we can always choose whether or not
to dance in the puddles (Jewish proverb).

Re: Win8 Upgrade

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:03 pm
by Brian K
DrT,

I'm still trying to understand the upgrade process. You downloaded the software and made an ISO and then a DVD. What I haven't grasped is how you installed Win8. Did you install it to the same HD that contained your qualifying Windows partition or did you install it to a new blank HD that you partitioned prior to the Win8 install? If it was the first choice, did you install into a new partition or into the old OS partition? I'm interested because I'm going to have to do this shortly.

Re: Win8 Upgrade

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:43 pm
by mjnelson99
I recently ordered a new Windows 7 Home Premium Family pack
to make sure if I get another computer it WON'T have Win 8.

Not sure if you can get that version in the UK or not.
Mary

On 10/28/2012 2:19 PM, DrTeeth wrote:
> Well, having played around a bit with it and got it to (almost) bend
> to my will; I'm unimpressed. There is NOTHING in Win 8 that makes it a
> necessary or desirable upgrade.
>
> Many things that could be changed in Win 7, Vista etc just cannot be
> now. Yes, those are the first things I like to configure on a new
> Windows install.
>
> If I got Win 8 on a new PC, I'd install Win 7 as my main OS.
>
> Makes me wonder what they were doing all the time.
>
> Oh, and I noticed a minor bug that has surfaced that is common on
> Vista. When one empties the recycle bin, the window does not show the
> emptied state...it still shows the contents and must be manually
> refreshed.
> --
>
> Cheers
>
> DrT
> ______________________________
> We may not be able to prevent the stormy times in
> our lives; but we can always choose whether or not
> to dance in the puddles (Jewish proverb).
>
>

Re: Win8 Upgrade

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:26 pm
by Brian K
Mary,

I've spent a lot of time using the Win8 betas and I like it and prefer it to Win7. Only human to have different preferences.

Re: Win8 Upgrade

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:57 pm
by DrTeeth
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 14:03:33 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
Brian K disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>DrT,
>
>I'm still trying to understand the upgrade process. You downloaded the software and made an ISO and then a DVD. What I haven't grasped is how you installed Win8. Did you install it to the same HD that contained your qualifying Windows partition or did you install it to a new blank HD that you partitioned prior to the Win8 install? If it was the first choice, did you install into a new partition or into the old OS partition? I'm interested because I'm going to have to do this shortly.
>

I installed to a fresh/empty/virgin partition on the same HD that had
the qualifying OS on - all other partitions were removed from the MBR
and not just hidden. The qualifying stage is done by the wizard and
not during the install. I am not sure if the downloadable upgrade is
tied to the qualifying PC in any way *before* install. That is why I
only d/l it for my laptop. I tend to upgrade my desktop every 2-3
years in some way or another and don't want to find that the upgrade
has an OEM-type of licence instead of a retail-type. MSoft have not
been able to give me an answer to this.

Please let me know if I am still not making any sense .
--

Cheers

DrT
______________________________
We may not be able to prevent the stormy times in
our lives; but we can always choose whether or not
to dance in the puddles (Jewish proverb).

Re: Win8 Upgrade

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:01 pm
by DrTeeth
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:43:20 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
mjnelson99 disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>I recently ordered a new Windows 7 Home Premium Family pack
>to make sure if I get another computer it WON'T have Win 8.
>
>Not sure if you can get that version in the UK or not.

Don't think it is. The *only* advantages that I have found with Win 8
is that LibreOffice loads much faster than it does in Win 7, and Java
(32 & 64 bit) installs much faster. That is it. TBH, I prefer Vista to
Win 8 - the 64 bit version in nowhere near as much a dog as the 32 bit
version was.
--

Cheers

DrT
______________________________
We may not be able to prevent the stormy times in
our lives; but we can always choose whether or not
to dance in the puddles (Jewish proverb).

Re: Win8 Upgrade

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:32 pm
by Brian K
Thanks,

There are numerous threads about the upgrade and some conflicting posts. I gather the install always works but whether Win8 activates is another matter. This article suggests just about anything works.

http://www.winsupersite.com/article/win ... dia-144648

Re: Win8 Upgrade

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:00 am
by DrTeeth
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:32:46 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
Brian K disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>I gather the install always works but whether Win8 activates is another matter

FWIW, activation worked here.
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Cheers

DrT
______________________________
We may not be able to prevent the stormy times in
our lives; but we can always choose whether or not
to dance in the puddles (Jewish proverb).

Re: Win8 Upgrade

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:39 pm
by Brian K
DrT,

Could the Win8 DVD "see" your qualifying OS partition? Was that partition in the MBR at the time?