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USB 3.0 support?

Postby T-Rhex » Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:43 am

Does IFL (or IFD) support USB 3.0? If not, are there any plans to eventually?

Thanks,
tr
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Re: USB 3.0 support?

Postby TeraByte Support » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:26 am

Hello,

IFW/IFL rely on the OS support. So yes, IFL and IFW support USB3 (unless
it's an old version of the OS which doesn't).

IFD currently requires that the BIOS support USB3. So, if your BIOS
supports, it then IFD will too (via the BIOS option). (Note that some
BIOSes may still decide to support it as USB2 so just by it showing up
doesn't mean the BIOS supports USB3 speeds).


"T-Rhex" wrote in message news:2783@public.image...

Does IFL (or IFD) support USB 3.0? If not, are there any plans to
eventually?

Thanks,
tr

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Re: USB 3.0 support?

Postby mjnelson99 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:44 pm

My own laptop includes USB 3 and required special drivers in
Win 7 so it may not be available from BIOS.
Mary

On 7/14/2012 1:26 PM, TeraByte Support wrote:
> Hello,
>
> IFW/IFL rely on the OS support. So yes, IFL and IFW support USB3 (unless
> it's an old version of the OS which doesn't).
>
> IFD currently requires that the BIOS support USB3. So, if your BIOS
> supports, it then IFD will too (via the BIOS option). (Note that some
> BIOSes may still decide to support it as USB2 so just by it showing up
> doesn't mean the BIOS supports USB3 speeds).
>
>
> "T-Rhex" wrote in message news:2783@public.image...
>
> Does IFL (or IFD) support USB 3.0? If not, are there any plans to
> eventually?
>
> Thanks,
> tr
>
>

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Re: USB 3.0 support?

Postby TeraByte Support » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:31 pm

BIOS and Windows are totally different, system BIOS would know of the USB
controller (chipset) in use and they would decide what they want to support.
Why Windows would require special drivers doesn't make any since since
interfacing with USB3 is a standard (XHCI) and W7 has XHCI support. Maybe
it was some add-on driver for the device?

"mjnelson99" wrote in message news:2785@public.image...

My own laptop includes USB 3 and required special drivers in
Win 7 so it may not be available from BIOS.
Mary

On 7/14/2012 1:26 PM, TeraByte Support wrote:
> Hello,
>
> IFW/IFL rely on the OS support. So yes, IFL and IFW support USB3 (unless
> it's an old version of the OS which doesn't).
>
> IFD currently requires that the BIOS support USB3. So, if your BIOS
> supports, it then IFD will too (via the BIOS option). (Note that some
> BIOSes may still decide to support it as USB2 so just by it showing up
> doesn't mean the BIOS supports USB3 speeds).
>
>
> "T-Rhex" wrote in message news:2783@public.image...
>
> Does IFL (or IFD) support USB 3.0? If not, are there any plans to
> eventually?
>
> Thanks,
> tr
>
>

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Re: USB 3.0 support?

Postby DrTeeth » Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:42 am

On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:31:34 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
"TeraByte Support" disturbed my
reverie and wrote:

>Why Windows would require special drivers doesn't make any since since
>interfacing with USB3 is a standard (XHCI) and W7 has XHCI support. Maybe
>it was some add-on driver for the device?
*Every* USB 3 port seems to need drivers; whether on an add in card or
present on a laptop. Maybe the interfacing is standard, but not the
speed gain of USB3?
--

Cheers

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Re: USB 3.0 support?

Postby mjnelson99 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:27 am

It was part of the Acer drivers included with the laptop.


On 7/14/2012 6:31 PM, TeraByte Support wrote:
> BIOS and Windows are totally different, system BIOS would know of the USB
> controller (chipset) in use and they would decide what they want to support.
> Why Windows would require special drivers doesn't make any since since
> interfacing with USB3 is a standard (XHCI) and W7 has XHCI support. Maybe
> it was some add-on driver for the device?
>
> "mjnelson99" wrote in message news:2785@public.image...
>
> My own laptop includes USB 3 and required special drivers in
> Win 7 so it may not be available from BIOS.
> Mary
>
> On 7/14/2012 1:26 PM, TeraByte Support wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> IFW/IFL rely on the OS support. So yes, IFL and IFW support USB3 (unless
>> it's an old version of the OS which doesn't).
>>
>> IFD currently requires that the BIOS support USB3. So, if your BIOS
>> supports, it then IFD will too (via the BIOS option). (Note that some
>> BIOSes may still decide to support it as USB2 so just by it showing up
>> doesn't mean the BIOS supports USB3 speeds).
>>
>>
>> "T-Rhex" wrote in message news:2783@public.image...
>>
>> Does IFL (or IFD) support USB 3.0? If not, are there any plans to
>> eventually?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> tr
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: USB 3.0 support?

Postby mjnelson99 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:53 am

An interesting question.

I do wonder if the BIOS would recognize that it really does
have a USB 3 port and operate @ USB 3 speeds.


On 7/15/2012 5:42 AM, DrTeeth wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:31:34 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
> "TeraByte Support"
>
> disturbed my
> reverie and wrote:
>
>> Why Windows would require special drivers doesn't make any since since
>> interfacing with USB3 is a standard (XHCI) and W7 has XHCI support. Maybe
>> it was some add-on driver for the device?
> *Every* USB 3 port seems to need drivers; whether on an add in card or
> present on a laptop. Maybe the interfacing is standard, but not the
> speed gain of USB3?
> --
>
> Cheers
>
> DrT
> ______________________________
> We may not be able to prevent the stormy times in
> our lives; but we can always choose to dance
> in the puddles (Jewish proverb).
>
>

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Re: USB 3.0 support?

Postby TeraByte Support » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:15 am

No, they wouldn't *need* it. Some come with things for say security or
utility (locking down a drive with password, checking the drive, etc..) but
Windows with the XHCI driver is all that is needed for USB3 speeds.
Otherwise it would use the EHCI driver which is USB2 speeds.


"DrTeeth" wrote in message news:2787@public.image...

On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:31:34 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
"TeraByte Support"

disturbed my
reverie and wrote:

>Why Windows would require special drivers doesn't make any since since
>interfacing with USB3 is a standard (XHCI) and W7 has XHCI support. Maybe
>it was some add-on driver for the device?
*Every* USB 3 port seems to need drivers; whether on an add in card or
present on a laptop. Maybe the interfacing is standard, but not the
speed gain of USB3?
--

Cheers

DrT
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Re: USB 3.0 support?

Postby T-Rhex » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:30 am

Thanks for the replies. I guess I meant that I was wondering if IFL supports USB 3.0 speeds. I've been successful in using IFL to backup and restore to/from an external drive over USB 3.0 from an internal SSD. It took roughly 15 min. to backup and validate (byte-for-byte) to a 16GB file on the external drive, and about 9 min. to restore that 16GB file to the SSD. Either works out to about 266Mb/s (roughly). I know IFL has a lot of other stuff to do than pure data transfer, but does this sound slow? This is on a Thinkpad w530 with an i7-3820.

Also, using IFL the only choice is (direct), not (bios). Does this make any difference? Would I get any different performance out of IFD?

Thanks again,
tr
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Re: USB 3.0 support?

Postby TeraByte Support » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:42 am

IFL itself isn't what determines device support, the linux OS does. Note
that for you to get USB3 speeds for a USB3 device, you need not only to plug
in to the USB3 port, but use a USB3 cable, otherwise a USB2 cable would only
give you USB2 speeds.

mounting the target and using File (os) may be a little faster.

"T-Rhex" wrote in message news:2794@public.image...

Thanks for the replies. I guess I meant that I was wondering if IFL
supports USB 3.0 speeds. I've been successful in using IFL to backup and
restore to/from an external drive over USB 3.0 from an internal SSD. It
took roughly 15 min. to backup and validate (byte-for-byte) to a 16GB file
on the external drive, and about 9 min. to restore that 16GB file to the
SSD. Either works out to about 266Mb/s (roughly). I know IFL has a lot of
other stuff to do than pure data transfer, but does this sound slow? This
is on a Thinkpad w530 with an i7-3820.

Also, using IFL the only choice is (direct), not (bios). Does this make any
difference? Would I get any different performance out of IFD?

Thanks again,
tr

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