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ACL security

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:00 pm
by grisu70
Hi,
i have a little problem when using drive image that came with Boot it bare metal.
Whenevever i create an image backup on my NTFS disk, the TBI file cannot be accessed.
I can't see the owner and i can't do anything.
I have first to take the ownership
then add the everyone permission
then i can do whatever i want

As you can see from the screenshot (everyone has been added by me) the only permission are :
- administrators Group (and i'm part of the administrators) full permission
- system full permission

but anyway if i don't add before everyone or explicity my user, the file is not accessible

any suggestion ?

Pls note that :
- the drive in which i save the backup the owner is everyone and has full control
- the folder receive same permission from disk

B. regards
Fabrizio

Re: ACL security

PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:13 pm
by Bob Coleman
I've just run into the same thing or something similar.

If I create a backup using IFD or IFL, I can't access it with either TBIMount or TBIView. Any attempt to do so produces "Insert Media 1 containing file x:\file name.tbi". I can, however, use IFW to restore from the same image file.

I realize now that I've probably encountered this error before and attributed it to a TBIView/TBIMount problem which it's probably not.

Backups created with IFW either in Windows or TBWinRE don't have this problem.

Re: ACL security

PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:49 pm
by Brian K

Re: ACL security

PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:54 pm
by Bob Coleman
Brian K wrote:
> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=581

Indeed. I wonder why IFW can process the files.

Re: ACL security

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:08 am
by Bob Coleman
Bob Coleman wrote:
> Brian K wrote:
> > http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=581
>
> Indeed. I wonder why IFW can process the files.

Maybe because it always runs in admin mode?

Re: ACL security

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:39 pm
by Bob Coleman
Bob Coleman wrote:
> Bob Coleman wrote:
> > Brian K wrote:
> > > http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=581
> >
> > Indeed. I wonder why IFW can process the files.
>
> Maybe because it always runs in admin mode?

I guess not. TBIMount still has the same issue when run from an admin user. That's when (double)clicking the TBI file. I think I did succeed in getting TBIMount to process one of these files by explicitly invoking it in admin mode and then browsing to the TBI file.

Also, for whatever it's worth, all this seems to happen only when using IFD and/or IFL to create images on my external USB HD. If the images are created on a partition on my internal HD, none of this seems to happen.

Re: ACL security

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:45 pm
by TeraByte Support
reformat the external otherwise create a new folder and set permissions on
it. The files take on the security attribute of the folder it's going in.






Re: ACL security

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:28 pm
by grisu70
This do not solve the issue.
tried this since Bootitng

FAbrizio

TeraByte Support wrote:
> reformat the external otherwise create a new folder and set permissions on
>
> it. The files take on the security attribute of the folder it's going in.

Re: ACL security

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:30 pm
by grisu70
Can't the Image for dos automatically add the everyone accesss and ownership?

Fabrizio

Re: ACL security

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:03 pm
by Bob Coleman
TeraByte Support wrote:
> reformat the external otherwise create a new folder and set permissions on
>
> it. The files take on the security attribute of the folder it's going in.

I don't think I want to format the drive and lose everything on it. I played around with the permissions on both the drive and a newly created folder on the drive. I couldn't come up with anything that affected how an image created by IFD behaved.

Now that I (somewhat) understand the issue, it's only a minor nuisance. Most of my backups are created with IFW and don't have the same issue.

For the few backups created by IFD or IFL, using information near the end of http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=581, I've been able to come up with fairly simple process to change the permissions so that TBIView works normally,