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Will We Ever Get...

Postby AlanD » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:49 am

Will Terabyte ever provide an imaging/restoration program which will
actually work to image a hard drive which contains both an OSX partition
and an NTFS partition?

Those of us who have such a setup would be mighty beholden to Terabyte
for providing what no other company has (as yet) - a simple reliable
cross-pollinated suite that will work, every time (just like IFW), and
we can restore any or all of the drive, every time (just like IFL), and
we can clone any or all any time without fear of corruption, or failure.

Yes, I have read some 'possible' workarounds, and yes several kind folks
have offered suggestions, but until a single, complete solution comes
along, I am sitting tight. I guess Terabyte has made me dependent upon
their nice comfortable environment.

In the meantime, I am running my Apple laptop (with Bootcamp) without a
backup solution. And if you think I am the only one with this issue,
just do some i'net searches. I have not even upgraded my OSX side (now 3
versions behind), because of known issues of loss of the ability to boot
into Windows.

I have my $$ ready for you, Terabyte, and while I am at it - thanks for
building great products.

AlanD

BTW, you are driving the faithful a little crazy waiting for that big
3.0 update.
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Re: Will We Ever Get...

Postby Panagiotis » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:31 pm

IFW and IFL work on such setups for years. The only setting that you have to enable when restoring is the option "GPT Hidden From OS".
And the only problem that exists is that terabyte apps do not restore the partitions to the exact same position (start/end sectors) with the original ones that where created with OSX's diskpart or bootcamp.

ps. Pay attention only to not use BIBM to modify or create new partitions because it can mess the partition table when viewed from OSX's diskpart.

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Re: Will We Ever Get...

Postby TeraByte Support » Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:20 am

entire drive, multi-partition, and command line (no target partition given)
restores always go back to the exact same location unless one of the scaling
or align options are used.

The problem is starting with one of the OS X 10.x versions they implemented
"CoreStorage" (similar to LVMs) which needs to be turned off so standard gpt
partitioning is used.


"Panagiotis" wrote in message news:11375@public.image...

IFW and IFL work on such setups for years. The only setting that you have to
enable when restoring is the option "GPT Hidden From OS".
And the only problem that exists is that terabyte apps do not restore the
partitions to the exact same position (start/end sectors) with the original
ones that where created with OSX's diskpart or bootcamp.

ps. Pay attention only to not use BIBM to modify or create new partitions
because it can mess the partition table when viewed from OSX's diskpart.

Panagiotis

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Re: Will We Ever Get...

Postby DrTeeth » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:05 am

On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 10:49:52 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
AlanD disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>BTW, you are driving the faithful a little crazy waiting for that big
>3.0 update.

Me too. With all the free enhancements over the years, one can only
begin to imagine the goodness they will put into a major release (botn
"image for ...." and BIBM).
--
Cheers,

DrT

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with democracy, spend five minutes with
the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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Re: Will We Ever Get...

Postby Panagiotis » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:26 am

Yes, I know that, but I cannot understand why when restoring a backup of a single partition on the same drive and on the same position of the original partition IFW,IFL,IFD moves the start/end sectors of the restored one. I understand this happening on a new unpartitioned drive or when restoring on an empty, unallocated space... but when restoring on a targeted partition and the partition and the backup have the exact same size and id it should not be happening.

TeraByte Support wrote:
> entire drive, multi-partition, and command line (no target partition given)
>
> restores always go back to the exact same location unless one of the
> scaling
> or align options are used.
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Re: Will We Ever Get...

Postby tas3086 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:19 pm

In the old days, you used to be able to read the raw hard disk sectors directly. You could then back up an complete drive, regardless of its formatting/partitioning. The only requirement was that a restore needed to go to a drive that was at least as big as the original. We used to have some systems that had a unique hard disk format, and that was the only method of backing up/restoring/cloning them. I do not know if this capability still exists in todays operating systems. It might be nice to have this feature available in TB.
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Re: Will We Ever Get...

Postby TeraByte Support » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:03 am

via the ui, if you disable align on end (or enable resize for align on end)
then it would keep the starting location.

"Panagiotis" wrote in message news:11381@public.image...

Yes, I know that, but I cannot understand why when restoring a backup of a
single partition on the same drive and on the same position of the original
partition IFW,IFL,IFD moves the start/end sectors of the restored one. I
understand this happening on a new unpartitioned drive or when restoring on
an empty, unallocated space... but when restoring on a targeted partition
and the partition and the backup have the exact same size and id it should
not be happening.

TeraByte Support wrote:
> entire drive, multi-partition, and command line (no target partition
> given)
>
> restores always go back to the exact same location unless one of the
> scaling
> or align options are used.

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Re: Will We Ever Get...

Postby TeraByte Support » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:04 am

you can get raw via entire drive, backup/copy unused sectors.

"tas3086" wrote in message news:11382@public.image...

In the old days, you used to be able to read the raw hard disk sectors
directly. You could then back up an complete drive, regardless of its
formatting/partitioning. The only requirement was that a restore needed to
go to a drive that was at least as big as the original. We used to have
some systems that had a unique hard disk format, and that was the only
method of backing up/restoring/cloning them. I do not know if this
capability still exists in todays operating systems. It might be nice to
have this feature available in TB.

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