Slow backup start up on Winidows 10

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Slow backup start up on Winidows 10

Postby Bob Coleman » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:11 pm

I have a Windows 7 and a Windows 10 partition on the same PC.

When using IFW running in Windows 7 to image Windows 7 (the running system), the image writing starts promptly.

When using IFW running in Windows 10 to image Windows 10 (the running system), the image writing seems to ALWAYS be delayed 10 minutes (the PhyLock maximum wait time).

Any similar observations or any idea why this would be?
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Re: Slow backup start up on Winidows 10

Postby TeraByte Support » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:37 pm

something is writing to the drive, reduce the wait time, or switch to use
VSS.


"Bob Coleman" wrote in message news:10634@public.image...

I have a Windows 7 and a Windows 10 partition on the same PC.

When using IFW running in Windows 7 to image Windows 7 (the running system),
the image writing starts promptly.

When using IFW running in Windows 10 to image Windows 10 (the running
system), the image writing seems to ALWAYS be delayed 10 minutes (the
PhyLock maximum wait time).

Any similar observations or any idea why this would be?

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Re: Slow backup start up on Winidows 10

Postby DrTeeth » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:18 am

On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 19:37:05 PST, just as I was about to take a herb,
"TeraByte Support" disturbed my
reverie and wrote:

>something is writing to the drive, reduce the wait time, or switch to use
>VSS.
I did notice that Win 8/8/1 did much more disk writing when idle than
Win 7. As Win 10 is an evolution of 8/8.1 that may be the case here.
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Re: Slow backup start up on Winidows 10

Postby Brian K » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:06 am

Bob,

You can use Procmon.exe (Sysinternals) to see what is writing to the drive.

By the way, I have Win10 on several computers and don't have an issue with IFW.
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Re: Slow backup start up on Winidows 10

Postby Bob Coleman » Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:29 pm

Related question: Is the image any less reliable/consistent when it starts because the wait time expired, presumably while something is still writing to the disk?
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Re: Slow backup start up on Winidows 10

Postby TeraByte Support » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:48 pm

if forced to start it could be considered less consistent.

"Bob Coleman" wrote in message news:10646@public.image...

Related question: Is the image any less reliable/consistent when it starts
because the wait time expired, presumably while something is still writing
to the disk?

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Re: Slow backup start up on Winidows 10

Postby mjnelson99 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:09 pm

I have found that sometimes if I stop a slow start and rerun that it
will then proceed more closely to normal.
Mary

On 12/3/2015 8:48 PM, TeraByte Support wrote:
> if forced to start it could be considered less consistent.
>
> "Bob Coleman" wrote in message news:10646@public.image...
>
> Related question: Is the image any less reliable/consistent when it starts
> because the wait time expired, presumably while something is still writing
> to the disk?
>
>
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Re: Slow backup start up on Winidows 10

Postby Bob Coleman » Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:32 pm

Yes, me to. It sometimes feels like if it doesn't start immediately, it's very unlikely to start until the wait time has expired.

It seems I spoke too soon regarding ALWAYS. I was ready to change that to "frequently" and it may even be "sometimes" or "occasionally". I have to monitor and experiment some more.

mjnelson99 wrote:
> I have found that sometimes if I stop a slow start and rerun that it
> will then proceed more closely to normal.
> Mary
>
> On 12/3/2015 8:48 PM, TeraByte Support wrote:
> > if forced to start it could be considered less consistent.
> >
> > "Bob Coleman" wrote in message news:10646@public.image...
> >
> > Related question: Is the image any less reliable/consistent when it
> starts
> > because the wait time expired, presumably while something is still
> writing
> > to the disk?
> >
> >
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Re: Slow backup start up on Winidows 10

Postby DrTeeth » Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:46 pm

On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 16:32:00 PST, just as I was about to take a herb,
Bob Coleman disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>Yes, me to. It sometimes feels like if it doesn't start immediately, it's very unlikely to start until the wait time has expired.
I can 'third' this one. If it has not started in a minute or less, I
cancel that backup and start again.
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Re: Slow backup start up on Winidows 10

Postby Bob Coleman » Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:32 pm

DrTeeth wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 16:32:00 PST, just as I was about to take a herb,
> Bob Coleman disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>
> >Yes, me to. It sometimes feels like if it doesn't start immediately, it's
> very unlikely to start until the wait time has expired.
> I can 'third' this one. If it has not started in a minute or less, I
> cancel that backup and start again.
> --
> Cheers,
>
> DrT
>
It now appears to me that this also was probably an overreaction. After the above discussion, I changed the wait time to 1440 (24 hours). Far more often than not, the image writing now starts right up quickly. When it occasionally doesn't, I grit my teeth and wait. So far, I've never had to wait 24 hours!
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