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Showing volumes in an extended partition

Postby eldiener » Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:57 pm

If I click on Volumes within an extended partition in order to hide one, there is no indication which volume is which in the extended partition. Since all my logical volumes in my extended partitons have labels, it would be real nice if BootItBM would identify each logical volume by its label. This cannot be too difficult to do.

Given that BBM does not show the logical volume label, can it be assumed that BBM is showing the volumes in the order that they occur in the partition table ? So that, let's say, if I see in Linux that my extended partitions are sda5, sda6, sda7 etc. this is the order in which BBM is showing them ?
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Re: Showing volumes in an extended partition

Postby Brian K » Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:35 pm

eldiener wrote:

>
> Given that BBM does not show the logical volume label,

My Volumes have labels in BIBM.
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Re: Showing volumes in an extended partition

Postby eldiener » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:41 pm

Brian K wrote:
> eldiener wrote:
>
> >
> > Given that BBM does not show the logical volume label,
>
> My Volumes have labels in BIBM.

I can see my the labels for my logical volumes when I view them in GParted, but BIBM does not show them in any situation. If your volumes have labels are these the partition labels that you see in other partitiong software, such as GParted or are these labels you have added to BIBM ? And if they are labels you have added to BIBM, how do i do that also ?
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Re: Showing volumes in an extended partition

Postby Brian K » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:56 pm

I can't recall. I probably created these volumes in BING years ago. But in BIBM, select your volume, Properties, give it a name.
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Re: Showing volumes in an extended partition

Postby TeraByte Support » Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:18 pm

You need to have the use volume label option enabled, they show for
fat/fat32/ntfs file systems. If the Extended partition is properly laid out
then yes they would be in the same order. You can use edit file to look at
what files are on the partitions, then label them if not fat/fat32/ntfs.

"eldiener" wrote in message news:4865@public.bootitbm...

If I click on Volumes within an extended partition in order to hide one,
there is no indication which volume is which in the extended partition.
Since all my logical volumes in my extended partitons have labels, it would
be real nice if BootItBM would identify each logical volume by its label.
This cannot be too difficult to do.

Given that BBM does not show the logical volume label, can it be assumed
that BBM is showing the volumes in the order that they occur in the
partition table ? So that, let's say, if I see in Linux that my extended
partitions are sda5, sda6, sda7 etc. this is the order in which BBM is
showing them ?

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Re: Showing volumes in an extended partition

Postby eldiener » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:58 pm

TeraByte Support wrote:
> You need to have the use volume label option enabled, they show for
> fat/fat32/ntfs file systems. If the Extended partition is properly laid
> out
> then yes they would be in the same order. You can use edit file to look at
>
> what files are on the partitions, then label them if not fat/fat32/ntfs.
>
> "eldiener" wrote in message news:4865@public.bootitbm...
>
> If I click on Volumes within an extended partition in order to hide one,
> there is no indication which volume is which in the extended partition.
> Since all my logical volumes in my extended partitons have labels, it would
>
> be real nice if BootItBM would identify each logical volume by its label.
> This cannot be too difficult to do.
>
> Given that BBM does not show the logical volume label, can it be assumed
> that BBM is showing the volumes in the order that they occur in the
> partition table ? So that, let's say, if I see in Linux that my extended
> partitions are sda5, sda6, sda7 etc. this is the order in which BBM is
> showing them ?

These are Linux partitions, all with a disk label for each partition. Why is it so hard to pick up the disk label for a Linux partition as opposed to a fat/ntfs partition ?

I think BIBM should automatically read the labels for disk partitions and show them so that it becomes easier for the end-user to identify each partition, most notable extended logical partitions. All of the partitioning software I know of is able to do that. Given how generally excellent I feel BIBM is in its basic functionality and flexibility it is a bit disappointing that such functionality is not implemented in BIBM.

I am glad nevertheless that the partitions are shown in the same order that I would see them in GParted, ie. in partition table order.

Thanks for your help !
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Re: Showing volumes in an extended partition

Postby oakeny » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:04 am

On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:58:40 PST, eldiener wrote:

> TeraByte Support wrote:
>> You need to have the use volume label option enabled, they show for
>> fat/fat32/ntfs file systems. If the Extended partition is properly laid
>> out
>> then yes they would be in the same order. You can use edit file to look at
>>
>> what files are on the partitions, then label them if not fat/fat32/ntfs.
>>
>> "eldiener" wrote in message news:4865@public.bootitbm...
>>
>> If I click on Volumes within an extended partition in order to hide one,
>> there is no indication which volume is which in the extended partition.
>> Since all my logical volumes in my extended partitons have labels, it would
>>
>> be real nice if BootItBM would identify each logical volume by its label.
>> This cannot be too difficult to do.
>>
>> Given that BBM does not show the logical volume label, can it be assumed
>> that BBM is showing the volumes in the order that they occur in the
>> partition table ? So that, let's say, if I see in Linux that my extended
>> partitions are sda5, sda6, sda7 etc. this is the order in which BBM is
>> showing them ?
>
> These are Linux partitions, all with a disk label for each partition. Why is it so hard to pick up the disk label for a Linux partition as opposed to a fat/ntfs partition ?
>
> I think BIBM should automatically read the labels for disk partitions and show them so that it becomes easier for the end-user to identify each partition, most notable extended logical partitions. All of the partitioning software I know of is able to do that. Given how generally excellent I feel BIBM is in its basic functionality and flexibility it is a bit disappointing that such functionality is not implemented in BIBM.
>
> I am glad nevertheless that the partitions are shown in the same order that I would see them in GParted, ie. in partition table order.
>
> Thanks for your help !

What I have done on occasions in the past with BING is to create a text
file in the root of each partition with a descriptive name (eg !WinXP-40G)
so that I can click the Edit File button, look at the top of the list of
files (hence the ! character at the start of the text file name), and check
the identity of the partition.

Maybe this would be a useful backstop for your purposes too?

Cheers,

John S
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Re: Showing volumes in an extended partition

Postby eldiener » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:01 am

oakeny wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:58:40 PST, eldiener wrote:
>
> > TeraByte Support wrote:
> >> You need to have the use volume label option enabled, they show for
> >> fat/fat32/ntfs file systems. If the Extended partition is properly
> laid
> >> out
> >> then yes they would be in the same order. You can use edit file to look
> at
> >>
> >> what files are on the partitions, then label them if not
> fat/fat32/ntfs.
> >>
> >> "eldiener" wrote in message news:4865@public.bootitbm...
> >>
> >> If I click on Volumes within an extended partition in order to hide one,
>
> >> there is no indication which volume is which in the extended partition.
>
> >> Since all my logical volumes in my extended partitons have labels, it
> would
> >>
> >> be real nice if BootItBM would identify each logical volume by its
> label.
> >> This cannot be too difficult to do.
> >>
> >> Given that BBM does not show the logical volume label, can it be assumed
>
> >> that BBM is showing the volumes in the order that they occur in the
> >> partition table ? So that, let's say, if I see in Linux that my extended
>
> >> partitions are sda5, sda6, sda7 etc. this is the order in which BBM is
> >> showing them ?
> >
> > These are Linux partitions, all with a disk label for each partition. Why
> is it so hard to pick up the disk label for a Linux partition as opposed to
> a fat/ntfs partition ?
> >
> > I think BIBM should automatically read the labels for disk partitions and
> show them so that it becomes easier for the end-user to identify each
> partition, most notable extended logical partitions. All of the
> partitioning software I know of is able to do that. Given how generally
> excellent I feel BIBM is in its basic functionality and flexibility it is a
> bit disappointing that such functionality is not implemented in BIBM.
> >
> > I am glad nevertheless that the partitions are shown in the same order
> that I would see them in GParted, ie. in partition table order.
> >
> > Thanks for your help !
>
> What I have done on occasions in the past with BING is to create a text
> file in the root of each partition with a descriptive name (eg !WinXP-40G)
> so that I can click the Edit File button, look at the top of the list of
> files (hence the ! character at the start of the text file name), and
> check
> the identity of the partition.
>
> Maybe this would be a useful backstop for your purposes too?

There should be no necessity for this for this sort of kludge. BIBM should certainly be capable of reading disk labels and showing them for every partition. Why such an otherwise excellent software program is not doing this is something I do not really understand. Name a software partitioner program and I am sure it shows the disk labels very clearly to the end-user. At least every one I have ever used does this, including GParted. It is not as if the disk label for a partition is somehow an obscure feature. I know that using a UUID has gained greater use in the Linux world and I use UUIds myself internally in my Linux distros in 'fstab' and 'grub/grub2', but I also make sure every partition, whether a primary MBR, logical volume MBR, or GPT, has a disk label for easy visual identification in programs which show/manipulate partitions.

I do hope the Terabyte programmers add the feature to BIBM to display disk labels for all partitions both when working with partitions and when looking at the different partitons when editing a boot item. I makes it much easier to identify partitions that way.
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Re: Showing volumes in an extended partition

Postby DrTeeth » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:18 am

On Fri, 8 Mar 2013 23:01:13 PST, just as I was about to take a herb,
eldiener disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>There should be no necessity for this for this sort of kludge.

There is one very good reason for this...so good I would suggest that
BIBM should include the capability to produce these files.

If one has an accident (raises own hand) and installs grub into the
MBR overwriting BIBM, when one does the recovery process, there are no
labels. Here I have all my Linux distros in same-sized partitions and
it is a real mess. With that 'Kludge' one can be fixed very quickly.
In the past, I have found it easier and faster to do a full restore.
--

Cheers

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Re: Showing volumes in an extended partition

Postby Brian K » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:42 pm

eldiener,

You don't like the idea of manually labeling the logical volumes in BIBM?
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