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Re: Creating Multi-Boot 64-Bit Win7, Win8, LinuxMint on SSD+

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:41 am
by sigi
sigi wrote:

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> Once in the Win8/10 Boot Manager, ESC will take me to BIBM, from where I can directly
> boot Win7 or LinuxMint.

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I have to correct myself and ask an additional question:
Once in BIBM, I cannot directly boot into Win7 but am referred back to the Win8/10 Boot Manager, which now has a bootable Win7 item though.

What can I do to avoid this detour via the Win8 Boot Manager but make Win7 directly bootable from BIBM?

Re: Creating Multi-Boot 64-Bit Win7, Win8, LinuxMint on SSD+

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:37 am
by TeraByte Support
So your notebook has space for 2 internal hard drives ?

or is one installed using eSATA or USB ?





Re: Creating Multi-Boot 64-Bit Win7, Win8, LinuxMint on SSD+

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:20 pm
by sigi
TeraByte Support wrote:
> So your notebook has space for 2 internal hard drives ?
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Yes it has (cf. the attached photo).
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Re: Creating Multi-Boot 64-Bit Win7, Win8, LinuxMint on SSD+

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:32 am
by Brian K
sigi,

So no plans to run Win8.1 from your SSD anymore? Sorry, but I think running Win8.1from the HD when you have a SSD is sub-optimal.

Re: Creating Multi-Boot 64-Bit Win7, Win8, LinuxMint on SSD+

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:49 am
by sigi
Answering Brian's question now (I will do that later) would remove the focus from my last question i.e.

"Once in BIBM, I cannot directly boot into Win7 but am referred back to the Win8/10 Boot Manager, which now has a bootable Win7 item though.
What can I do to avoid this detour via the Win8 Boot Manager but make Win7 directly bootable from BIBM?"

Terabyte Support reacted on that by asking whether my notebook has space for 2 internal hard drives. In my answer to that I attached a photo of the interior of my notebook. I am not sure whether this was directed at providing necessary background info for the answer to my boot problem. Anyway, I would highly appreciate guidance now as to how I can boot Win7 directly from BIBM.

Re: Creating Multi-Boot 64-Bit Win7, Win8, LinuxMint on SSD+

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:40 pm
by TeraByte Support
to boot direct, you have to have the bootmgr file and the \boot folder on
that drive and the entry needs to point to that instance of windows.

See these two:

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=492

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=409




"sigi" wrote in message news:10202@public.bootitbm...

Answering Brian's question now (I will do that later) would remove the focus
from my last question i.e.

"Once in BIBM, I cannot directly boot into Win7 but am referred back to the
Win8/10 Boot Manager, which now has a bootable Win7 item though.
What can I do to avoid this detour via the Win8 Boot Manager but make Win7
directly bootable from BIBM?"

Terabyte Support reacted on that by asking whether my notebook has space for
2 internal hard drives. In my answer to that I attached a photo of the
interior of my notebook. I am not sure whether this was directed at
providing necessary background info for the answer to my boot problem.
Anyway, I would highly appreciate guidance now as to how I can boot Win7
directly from BIBM.


Re: Creating Multi-Boot 64-Bit Win7, Win8, LinuxMint on SSD+

PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:43 am
by sigi
TeraByte Support wrote:
> to boot direct, you have to have the bootmgr file and the \boot folder on
> that drive and the entry needs to point to that instance of windows.
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> See these two:
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> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=492
The entries were already what they should be:
under Menu > Device: "HD-0" and "Win7"
under Menu > OS Device: "HD-0" and "Win7"
under Windows Boot Manager > Device: "HD-0" and "Win7"
under Windows Boot Manager > Windows Memory Diagnostic: "HD-0" and "Win7"

> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=409
not applicable because my SSD does not have a Windows "System Reserved" Partition.

snip

Since I did not have to change anything the boot behaviour has not changed either: Selection of "Win7" in the BIBM Boot Manager takes me back to the Windows Boot Manager with the additional bootable item "Win7".

Is there anything else I could try?

Re: Creating Multi-Boot 64-Bit Win7, Win8, LinuxMint on SSD+

PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:46 am
by TeraByte Support
remove the timeout on that menu (via bcdedit in bibm or in windows advanced
properties after booting to it).

system properties, advanced, startup and recovery, you'll see it there.


"sigi" wrote in message news:10210@public.bootitbm...

TeraByte Support wrote:
> to boot direct, you have to have the bootmgr file and the \boot folder on
> that drive and the entry needs to point to that instance of windows.
>
> See these two:
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>

[
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=492
](http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=492)

The entries were already what they should be:
under Menu > Device: "HD-0" and "Win7"
under Menu > OS Device: "HD-0" and "Win7"
under Windows Boot Manager > Device: "HD-0" and "Win7"
under Windows Boot Manager > Windows Memory Diagnostic: "HD-0" and
"Win7"

>

[
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=409
](http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=409)

not applicable because my SSD does not have a Windows "System Reserved"
Partition.

snip

Since I did not have to change anything the boot behaviour has not changed
either: Selection of "Win7" in the BIBM Boot Manager takes me back to the
Windows Boot Manager with the additional bootable item "Win7".

Is there anything else I could try?


Re: Creating Multi-Boot 64-Bit Win7, Win8, LinuxMint on SSD+

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:52 am
by sigi
sigi wrote:
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> Once in BIBM, I cannot directly boot into Win7 but am referred back to the Win8/10
> Boot Manager, which now has a bootable Win7 item though.
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> What can I do to avoid this detour via the Win8 Boot Manager but make Win7 directly
> bootable from BIBM?
snip


TeraByte Support wrote:
> remove the timeout on that menu (via bcdedit in bibm or in windows advanced
> properties after booting to it).
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> system properties, advanced, startup and recovery, you'll see it there.
snip


Thank you. That was the solution. When I now select the Win7 item in the BIBM boot menu, the Windows Boot Manager very briefly flashes up (so that one cannot read which items it contains) and Win7 is directly booted.

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Brian K wrote:
> sigi,
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> So no plans to run Win8.1 from your SSD anymore? Sorry, but I think running
> Win8.1from the HD when you have a SSD is sub-optimal.


Brian,
for the moment I am happy with the situation as it is because no further work is needed now shortly before my holiday. Win8 (GPT HDD) is directly booted from Windows Boot Manager, the two SSD OS's can be directly booted from BIBM, which has to be evoked by just pressing ESC.

The GPT HDD can retain its special partitions, and C:\ can be reduced in Windows Disk Manager from 413297 MB to 206373 MB thus making room for an Extended. TBWinRE will be responsible for backups of the HDD.

The SSD is governed by BIBM/IFD, and the OS's on it will have their Extended on the SSD.

I cannot rule out that I might be interested into transferring Win8 to the SSD at a later stage. In that case I will most probably have to start a new thread on tbosdts because I will have to use it for GPT/MBR conversion (since BIBM cannot see my HDD).

Thank you so far for your help and for your permanent readiness to provide assistance to users of Terabyte products here in the forum.

Re: Creating Multi-Boot 64-Bit Win7, Win8, LinuxMint on SSD+

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:56 pm
by Brian K
sigi,

Understood. Please keep us informed if you do the GPT to MBR/EMBR conversion. I'd be interested to hear if BIBM can then see the HD (when it is not GPT).

Enjoy your holiday.