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Win 10 Preview - fast boot

PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:30 pm
by DrTeeth
Is it possible to turn off the fast start feature of Win 10 via BIBM
1.29? Had a quick look but could not find it.
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DrT

** You've never known happiness until you're married;
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Re: Win 10 Preview - fast boot

PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 3:01 pm
by Brian K
DrT,

Fast Startup is enabled by default in Win10 and BIBM can disable it. Even with a UEFI Win10.

Re: Win 10 Preview - fast boot

PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:12 pm
by TeraByte Support
It's surprising they haven't turned it off by default. Old MS wouldn't
have done something like have a potentially destructive option enabled by
default. They were pretty good at understanding the standards, issues, and
not breaking things. After all, it's standards and 3rd parties that really
built MS. It may be they are hiring a generation coming over from open
source where things are done very ad-hoc and with a narrow focus without
fully understanding what they may be breaking or issue they may be causing.

Let's hope the F8 / Safe Mode / Etc.. comes back by default as well. For
non-keyboard systems, using a button or touching a spot or back and forth
swiping on boot could be used. They can still use the GUI since text mode
doesn't exist for UEFI and the move away from VGA/SVGA also gets rid of text
mode.




"Brian K" wrote in message news:9137@public.bootitbm...

DrT,

Fast Startup is enabled by default in Win10 and BIBM can disable it. Even
with a UEFI Win10.


Re: Win 10 Preview - fast boot

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:40 am
by DrTeeth
On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 14:01:13 PST, just as I was about to take a herb,
Brian K disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>DrT,
>
>Fast Startup is enabled by default in Win10 and BIBM can disable it. Even with a UEFI Win10.
>

Hi Brian,

Happy New Year.
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Cheers,

DrT

** You've never known happiness until you're married;
** but by then it is too late.

Re: Win 10 Preview - fast boot

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:44 am
by DrTeeth
On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 21:12:30 PST, just as I was about to take a herb,
"TeraByte Support" disturbed my
reverie and wrote:

>It's surprising they haven't turned it off by default. Old MS wouldn't
>have done something like have a potentially destructive option enabled by
>default. They were pretty good at understanding the standards, issues, and
>not breaking things. After all, it's standards and 3rd parties that really
>built MS. It may be they are hiring a generation coming over from open
>source where things are done very ad-hoc and with a narrow focus without
>fully understanding what they may be breaking or issue they may be causing.
>
>Let's hope the F8 / Safe Mode / Etc.. comes back by default as well. For
>non-keyboard systems, using a button or touching a spot or back and forth
>swiping on boot could be used. They can still use the GUI since text mode
>doesn't exist for UEFI and the move away from VGA/SVGA also gets rid of text
>mode.

It's a shame that they have not fixed these things. especially as Win
10 looks and behaves quite nicely. They are *still* reducing the
number of interface options presented to their customers and I hate
them for that.

Happy New Year to all at TBU and on the forum.
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Cheers,

DrT

** You've never known happiness until you're married;
** but by then it is too late.

Re: Win 10 Preview - fast boot

PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:39 pm
by DrTeeth
On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 14:01:13 PST, just as I was about to take a herb,
Brian K disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>Fast Startup is enabled by default in Win10 and BIBM can disable it. Even with a UEFI Win10.

Can somebody please confirm if switching off Fast Startup via BIBM
really does that? How can I check it has here? I am getting many
chkdsks on boot for a common data partition here since installing Win
10 and switching off Fast Boot via BIBM has not affected its
incidence.
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Cheers,

DrT

** You've never known happiness until you're married;
** but by then it is too late.

Re: Win 10 Preview - fast boot

PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:33 pm
by Brian K
DrT,

1) Open Control Panel.
2) Choose Hardware and Sound -> Power Options
3) Click on "Choose what the power button does" on left.
4) Click on "Change settings that are currently unavailable".
5) Confirm there is no check mark in the "Turn on fast startup (recommended)" under Shutdown settings

Re: Win 10 Preview - fast boot

PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:45 am
by DrTeeth
On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 20:33:54 PST, just as I was about to take a herb,
Brian K disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>DrT,
>
>1) Open Control Panel.
>2) Choose Hardware and Sound -> Power Options
>3) Click on "Choose what the power button does" on left.
>4) Click on "Change settings that are currently unavailable".
>5) Confirm there is no check mark in the "Turn on fast startup (recommended)" under Shutdown settings
>

Thanks Brian. On that basis, BIBM does NOT turn off Fastboot in Win 10
Preview edition. The check mark is STILL present even though Fastboot
has been disabled in BIBM - in both of my Win 10 installs.

Chkdsk runs on every common edition even if nothing has been changed.

Until this issue is confirmed as fixed by TBU, I'd advise turning off
fastboot by following Brian K's instructions. Another option would be
to hide all other partitions from Win 10.

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Cheers,

DrT

** You've never known happiness until you're married;
** but by then it is too late.

Re: Win 10 Preview - fast boot

PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:08 pm
by Brian K
DrT,

That's strange because the tick was absent after I used BIBM to disable Fast Startup.

Re: Win 10 Preview - fast boot

PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:47 pm
by Brian K
DrT,

I tried it again. Win10 was installed and there was a check mark in "Turn on fast startup (recommended)" under Shutdown settings. A BIBM CD was used to Disable Fast Startup. In Windows there was now no check mark in "Turn on fast startup (recommended)" under Shutdown settings.

Why do we differ? Weird.