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Re: BootIt Boot Manager and SSD

PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:30 am
by james333
Thanks a lot i was searching for this for very long time, actually i recently join this forum and i hope got lot of such useful information in future.

Re: BootIt Boot Manager and SSD

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:22 am
by fileant
I think the erase is overcomplicated, according to wiki since 2001 SATA drives can not be recovered after one overwrite. i.e. it is just wearing out you drive writing patterns (and with multiple passes) especially on an SSD.

So you could simplify it by ...
erase with ATA Secure erase if supported
erase with 0's for HDDs that do not support ATA secure erase.
erase with 1's for SDDs that do not support ATA secure erase. (I think on an SSD a 1 is a zero).

Also, maybe some SSD's will not secure erase until you delete the partitions. (not sure as I have not tried yet, but I think Intel needs no partitions using its util from windows or something like that)

Re: BootIt Boot Manager and SSD

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:08 pm
by DrTeeth
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 09:22:09 PST, just as I was about to take a herb,
fileant disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>I think the erase is overcomplicated, according to wiki since 2001 SATA drives can not be recovered after one overwrite

The way the mechanicals work determines whether data is recoverable or
not, not the interface.
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Cheers

DrT
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Re: BootIt Boot Manager and SSD

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:03 pm
by a1pcfixer
Fileant,

> Also, maybe some SSD's will not secure erase until you delete the partitions. (not sure as I have not tried yet, but I think Intel needs no partitions using its util from windows or something like that)

Stop by.......
http://12078.net/grcnews/article.php?id=250366&group=grc.techtalk#250366
......where they're discussing such in great detail.

For news readers; news.grc.com [grc.techtalk]
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Jim L.
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http://www.virtual-access.org
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Re: BootIt Boot Manager and SSD

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:54 pm
by mjnelson99
Steve did say he MIGHT work on Spin Rite this year.
It took him numerous years to allow Spin Rite to even work
on NTFS systems.

Who knows.
Mary



On 2/23/2012 4:03 PM, a1pcfixer wrote:
> Fileant,
>
>> Also, maybe some SSD's will not secure erase until you delete the partitions. (not sure as I have not tried yet, but I think Intel needs no partitions using its util from windows or something like that)
>
> Stop by.......
> http://12078.net/grcnews/article.php?id=250366&group;=grc.techtalk#250366
> ......where they're discussing such in great detail.
>
> For news readers; news.grc.com [grc.techtalk]

Re: BootIt Boot Manager and SSD

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:54 pm
by a1pcfixer
My reply and link here to fileant was regarding his erasing files on
SSD media, not so much SpinRite.

For you.....
Yep....Steve might. He's his own boss & works on what pleases him.
So he'll get to SR when current issues get finished up.
First upgrade to SpinRite will be to version 6.1 which'll most likely
be some simple fixes.

SR 7.x will be his biggie, with SR no longer depending on the BIOS, in
many ways curing a plethora of current shortcommings. A couple are SR &
RAID arrays, another might be to include a HD erase feature.

Btw, SR the current version got released in 2004. It's due to get
upgraded.
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Jim L.
Using - Virtual Access(OLR)
http://www.virtual-access.org
6.3.0.5 Windows Vista Service Pack 2 build 6002


Re: BootIt Boot Manager and SSD

PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:09 am
by DrTeeth
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:54:27 PST, just as I was about to take a herb,
a1pcfixer disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>Btw, SR the current version got released in 2004. It's due to get
>upgraded.

Sir, you are being waaayyyy too polite .
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Cheers

DrT
______________________________
We may not be able to prevent the stormy times in
our lives; but we can always choose to dance
in the puddles (Jewish proverb).