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HP 15-n 220us laptop

PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:20 am
by mjnelson99
This computer comes with Win 8.1 and some hardware things I like. I
would like to dual boot with Win 7 Home Premium.

Right now, I only have BING but would get BIBM if it seems practical.

Probably has the 100 mb partition so 3 primaries already used as well.
(restore, 100 mb, Win 8).

I would want Win 7 plus extended so 5 primaries eventually.

Is this a likely possibility since some new laptops seem to be problematic?
Thanks

Mary

Re: HP 15-n 220us laptop

PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:22 am
by mjnelson99
P.S. It looks like HP may be going the way of no DVD drive as well.
One of their more expensive computers did not have one.

This computer does.

On 1/24/2014 10:20 AM, MJNelson wrote:
> This computer comes with Win 8.1 and some hardware things I like. I
> would like to dual boot with Win 7 Home Premium.
>
> Right now, I only have BING but would get BIBM if it seems practical.
>
> Probably has the 100 mb partition so 3 primaries already used as well.
> (restore, 100 mb, Win 8).
>
> I would want Win 7 plus extended so 5 primaries eventually.
>
> Is this a likely possibility since some new laptops seem to be problematic?
> Thanks
>
> Mary
>
>

Re: HP 15-n 220us laptop

PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:37 am
by TeraByte Support(PP)
Did you have the laptop specifically configured as MBR? Otherwise, it's most likely a UEFI/GPT setup and may already have 4+ partitions. In that case, you'd have to convert to MBR first. If you do attempt this make sure to create a backup of the entire drive first in case you want (or need) to return to the factory state.

Re: HP 15-n 220us laptop

PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:56 pm
by mjnelson99
Is converting to MBR a problem for Win 8.1 at all?
Do UEFI/GPT show up differently in boot info?

I haven't purchased it yet. Was not sure I could safely use more than 4
partitions and their specs do not include that info as far as I could see.

Will review the PDF again an see if I missed anything.

On 1/24/2014 11:37 AM, PP wrote:
> Did you have the laptop specifically configured as MBR?

Otherwise, it's most likely a UEFI/GPT setup and may already have 4+
partitions.

In that case, you'd have to convert to MBR first.

If you do attempt this make sure to create a backup of the entire drive
first

in case you want (or need) to return to the factory state.
>
>

Re: HP 15-n 220us laptop

PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:03 pm
by mjnelson99
I do have Image 2.87 and can easily image before I find out the other
stuff re MBR etc.

On 1/24/2014 1:56 PM, MJNelson wrote:
> Is converting to MBR a problem for Win 8.1 at all?
> Do UEFI/GPT show up differently in boot info?
>
> I haven't purchased it yet. Was not sure I could safely use more than 4
> partitions and their specs do not include that info as far as I could see.
>
> Will review the PDF again an see if I missed anything.
>
> On 1/24/2014 11:37 AM, PP wrote:
>> Did you have the laptop specifically configured as MBR?
>
> Otherwise, it's most likely a UEFI/GPT setup and may already have 4+
> partitions.
>
> In that case, you'd have to convert to MBR first.
>
> If you do attempt this make sure to create a backup of the entire drive
> first
>
> in case you want (or need) to return to the factory state.
>>
>>
>
>

Re: HP 15-n 220us laptop

PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:14 pm
by TeraByte Support(PP)
You can see the basic procedure here: http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=580
Different systems may have other specific requirements or repairs required. You may lose some functionality also because most newer systems use UEFI features.

The UEFI BIOS can look very similar to a Legacy BIOS (e.g. text menus) or it may be quite different with graphics, mouse support, etc. Booting options can also be different (e.g. selecting a Windows installation instead of drive).

Re: HP 15-n 220us laptop

PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:19 pm
by mjnelson99
I was correct. the PDF from HP did not tell any of that stuff.

On 1/24/2014 2:14 PM, PP wrote:
> You can see the basic procedure here:
>
> [
> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=580
> ](http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=580)
>
> Different systems may have other specific requirements or repairs required. You may lose some functionality also because most newer systems use UEFI features.
>
> The UEFI BIOS can look very similar to a Legacy BIOS (e.g. text menus) or it may be quite different with graphics, mouse support, etc. Booting options can also be different (e.g. selecting a Windows installation instead of drive).
>
>

Re: HP 15-n 220us laptop

PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:20 pm
by a1pcfixer
MJ,

Per MS requirements, ALL PC's with Win 8.x pre-installed, WILL have
'Secure-Boot' activated, AND most likely will have GPT presetup on
HDD's.
--

Jim L.
Using - Virtual Access(OLR)
http://www.virtual-access.org
6.3.0.5 and Windows 7 Service Pack 1 build 7601


Re: HP 15-n 220us laptop

PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:27 pm
by mjnelson99
I gather it is not possible to use BIBM with either UEFI/GPT?

It looks like a nightmare in the making.
UEFI seems to lock us into MS and out of BIBM, Linux, etc.

I like the computer I listed but am considering finding out if I can get
drivers for Win 7 that I already have and can use.

Mary

On 1/24/2014 3:20 PM, a1pcfixer wrote:
> MJ,
>
> Per MS requirements, ALL PC's with Win 8.x pre-installed, WILL have
> 'Secure-Boot' activated, AND most likely will have GPT presetup on
> HDD's.
>

Re: HP 15-n 220us laptop

PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:37 pm
by Brian K
Mary,

One possibility is to buy the computer, use BIBM to delete the partitions and convert the disk to MBR, change your BIOS setting to Legacy and then you can install BIBM and do a standard Win8.1 install from your supplied Win8.1 media.

That's assuming you don't like the TeraByte method. But the TeraByte method would be my first choice.