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Win 8.1 Fast Start

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:09 am
by Ed Smith
Does Windows 8.1 still have the problem with Fast Start turned on corrupting
partitions?

I had Win 7 and Win 8 using BootNow with the /hibernate in Task Scheduler
per TB as I used Hibernation.

I have now decided to stop using BootNow as I don't boot that often between
the two OS's.

I am going to update to Win 8.1 via the Windows Store and was wondering if
anyone knows if MS has fixed
that Fast Start corruption problem or not. I still want to use Hibernation
with Win 8.

I can't remember now if BootNow with /hibernate was used only because we
used Hibernate or it
it was used just because of the Win 8.0 Fast Start corruption problem.

Hopefully someone can clarify this for me.

Just a note --- I sure wish those of us that have Win 8 could get an ISO of
Win 8.1 from MS so we could
do clean installs down the road. The way it is now we would have to install
Win 8.0 and then again go
to the Windows Store and download and install Win 8.1 again each time we did
a clean install.

Thank You,
Ed.




Re: Win 8.1 Fast Start

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:33 am
by Brian K
Ed Smith wrote:


> Just a note --- I sure wish those of us that have Win 8 could get an ISO of
>
> Win 8.1 from MS so we could
> do clean installs down the road.


Ed,

I saw this but haven't tried it.

http://www.neowin.net/news/here-is-how- ... tall-stick

Re: Win 8.1 Fast Start

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:06 pm
by Ed Smith
Thanks Brian. I saw that some place too. The only thing is that my 8.0 is an
OEM. This won't work with an OEM product key.

"Brian K" wrote in message news:6589@public.bootitbm...

Ed Smith wrote:


> Just a note --- I sure wish those of us that have Win 8 could get an ISO
> of
>
> Win 8.1 from MS so we could
> do clean installs down the road.


Ed,

I saw this but haven't tried it.

[
http://www.neowin.net/news/here-is-how- ... tall-stick
](http://www.neowin.net/news/here-is-how-to-get-the-windows-81-iso-and-create-a-usb-install-stick)



Re: Win 8.1 Fast Start

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:21 pm
by Brian K
Ed Smith wrote:
> The only thing is that my 8.0 is
> an
> OEM. This won't work with an OEM product key.
>


Ed,

Which part doesn't work? The download or the Activation after Win8.1 has been installed?

Re: Win 8.1 Fast Start

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:55 pm
by DrTeeth
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 22:09:22 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
"Ed" disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>Does Windows 8.1 still have the problem with Fast Start turned on corrupting
>partitions?

Yes. The issue has to do with how MSoft has implemented hibernation in
general. One also needs to have common data partitions for the issue
to be possible.
--

Cheers,

DrT

** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
** out of someone who richly deserves it.

Re: Win 8.1 Fast Start

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:48 am
by a1pcfixer
Brian,

> The download

It pukes on OEM keys:-(
--

Jim L.
Using - Virtual Access(OLR)
http://www.virtual-access.org
6.3.0.5 Windows Vista Service Pack 2 build 6002


Re: Win 8.1 Fast Start

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:19 am
by Ed Smith
I didn't try it but several articles I have seen says that it won't work
with OEM product keys.
Don't know if that is for the download or the activation.

"Brian K" wrote in message news:6593@public.bootitbm...

Ed Smith wrote:
> The only thing is that my 8.0 is
> an
> OEM. This won't work with an OEM product key.
>


Ed,

Which part doesn't work? The download or the Activation after Win8.1 has
been installed?


Re: Win 8.1 Fast Start

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:24 am
by Ed Smith
I do have common data partitions visible to 8.1 and 7.0.

So are you saying that I still have to have Fast Start off.

Can you just have Fast Start off or do you also have to have bootnow set up
in Task Scheduler with the /hibernate too ?

Like I said, I won't be using bootnow now.

Thanks,
Ed.

"DrTeeth" wrote in message news:6594@public.bootitbm...

On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 22:09:22 PDT, just as I was about to take a herb,
"Ed"

disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>Does Windows 8.1 still have the problem with Fast Start turned on
>corrupting
>partitions?

Yes. The issue has to do with how MSoft has implemented hibernation in
general. One also needs to have common data partitions for the issue
to be possible.
--

Cheers,

DrT

** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
** out of someone who richly deserves it.


Re: Win 8.1 Fast Start

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:09 am
by Brian K
a1pcfixer wrote:

> > The download
>
> It pukes on OEM keys:-(
> --


No problem guys. Further down the page I linked you will find a placeholder key to use. This lets you download and install. After Win8.1 has been installed you can Activate with your own key.

Edit... You can avoid creating a Microsoft account by entering a fake email and password. You can then use your Local account.

Re: Win 8.1 Fast Start

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:41 pm
by a1pcfixer
Brian,

> Further down the page I linked you will find a placeholder key to use.

Posted by?.....

Radium,
20 October 2013 - 10:23

> This lets you download and install.

Will test a bit later.

> After Win8.1 has been installed you can Activate with your own key.

That's where we'll see if it truly works.
--

Jim L.
Using - Virtual Access(OLR)
http://www.virtual-access.org
6.3.0.5 and Windows 7 Service Pack 1 build 7601